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Hartley Widow
« on: Saturday 04 August 12 16:56 BST (UK) »
Anyone who has researched relatives in the Northumbrian mines will have heard of the Hartley Pit Disaster of 1862, where 204 men and boys were killed.

I have a distant relative who died down there - Winship Jack (or Jaques), who was my 1st cousin 3x removed.

I have always wondered what happened to his widow. Elizabeth Jaques (nee Wanlass ). She lost her husband and 3 brothers in the disaster. How on earth did she cope?

Elizabeth & Winship (named for his mother's maiden name) married on Earsdon on 23 May 1857. She was left with three little girls,  Isabella 1857, Ann 1859, and Elizabeth 1860. I can find no sign of them. I presume Elizabeth married again.

There is an Elizabeth Bruce living with a Thomas and Mary Wanlass in 1871, but the ages of the Bruce children don't fit with her marrying again, and the three girls aren't there.

Has anyone come across Elizabeth or her girls?

Liz

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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 August 12 17:42 BST (UK) »
Liz,on free bmd there is an Elizabeth Jack marriage June qtr 1865 to either a Armstrong,Legg or a Lowery.Might be a possibility?

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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 August 12 17:53 BST (UK) »
I think she may have married Thomas Legg and can be found in Hartley Village on the 1871 census.  Non of her earlier children are with them though.  Elizabeth was 30 born Earsdon, Thomas 26, and children Christopher 5 and Robert 3.

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Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 August 12 18:06 BST (UK) »
Yes she did marry Thomas Legg:

http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/browse.shtml?p_subjectCategory=1289

LEGG, Thomas
Marriage date: 1865

JACK, Elizabeth
Marriage date: 1865
Father's Surname: WANLESS

Register Book, Entry Number: C-5 4, 149

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 August 12 18:48 BST (UK) »
That's fantastic. Thank you. I suppose I wanted some happiness and security for her. I hope it was.

I wonder what happened to the girls.
Liz
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CRAIG, RENNIE, WATSON, JAQUES & JAKES, WARDLAW, TWIZZELL, BRASS, NICHOLSON, SUMMERVILLE, ARCHER, LEARMOUTH, ANDERSON, BOAG, SLAYTER, NELSON, HARDY, RICHARDSON, CHICKEN, LOWDON, BROWN, LAWTON, ANGUS, DIXON    Northumberland
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NELLESS, YOUNGHUSBAND GREEN SCOTT DIXON Durham
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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 August 12 21:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have never found out what happened to Elizabeth's girls, though I do know for sure she married Thomas LEGG.

If you search on here for posts  posted by 'mettle' you may connect with a relative!

'mettle' was also looking for information regarding the children, and may have photos of Thomas LEGG with Elizabeth.

Regards,

Trini.
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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 August 12 21:34 BST (UK) »
Have you got this information,
 Sacred to the memory of Christopher
son of Thomas and Isabella Wanless
Who lost his life in the Hartley Pit
By the fatal accident of the engine beam breaking,
11th June 1862 ,aged 20 years
Thomas their son lost his life at the same time,
aged 19 years
Also their son John lost his life by the same accident
aged 15 years
Also Thomas their son,died April 22nd 1842 aged 6 years
Winship Jack
Their son in law also lost his life by
the above named misfortune
aged 21 years






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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 August 12 21:41 BST (UK) »
Are Thomas and Elizabeth Legg living in Hastings Row in 1881


Fred do you know if your family lived in Hastings Row before the disaster
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Re: Hartley Widow
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 August 12 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Radcliffe :)

Yes, that was them living at Hastings Row, Seaton Delaval in 1881 :)

Trini.
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