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WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« on: Sunday 05 August 12 23:04 BST (UK) »
I have found a connection with a person and I would like to find out more but its probably a long shot due to lack of name and any real facts.

What I know is a German was a prisoner of war and the camp was on the Wirral, after the war he married a woman who was from Frankby, I am guessing the marriage would be between 1919 - early 1920's I do not know if the marriage was in Germany or on the Wirral. They had a son I think the name is Gunther, I estimate he was born in the early 1920's. I don't know if he was born on the Wirral or Germany.

Has anyone got any idea how I could find out more?

Thanks

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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 August 12 23:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

With so little info and no names - it's not looking good

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What is this connection and how does it link to the info above?
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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 August 12 23:18 BST (UK) »
A Google search found a POW camp at Leasowe Castle? 1917-1918
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 August 12 11:34 BST (UK) »
This link takes you to Every prisoner of war camp in the UK mapped and listed

"This is for WW2, I did not notice the OP was looking for WW1"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/08/prisoner-of-war-camps-uk#data

Camp No. 298 Parkgate, Wirral & 283 W.D. Camp, Ledsham Hall, Ledsham, Little Sutton, the nearest I can see.


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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 August 12 11:45 BST (UK) »
Nice try Colin, but those are WW2 camps?!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 August 12 12:26 BST (UK) »
Whoops, appologies :-[

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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 August 12 13:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the help, just looked around and it looks like WW1 POW records are patchy, although the POW at Leasowe Castle is interesting, whether any records of names survive, I guess could be at the library.

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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 August 12 13:40 BST (UK) »
Found the following reference in Hansard:
PRISONERS OF WAR.
HC Deb 10 July 1918 vol 108 cc295-6

"36. Captain BARNETT asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that the Railway-men's Convalescent Home, Leasowe 296 Castle, Wallasley, which was commandeered early in the War for use by British troops, is now occupied by German prisoners of war; whether these prisoners or some of them are employed in repairing the sea wall; whether their employment in close proximity to the Irish Sea is either necessary or desirable; and whether, in view of the strain which has been thrown upon railwaymen by the War, he will take steps to secure that this convalescent home shall be restored at the earliest possible moment to its proper use? "

Also & I did not know about this one which is quite interesting:

BIDSTON HILL CAMP, BIRKENHEAD.
HC Deb 12 November 1918 vol 110 cc2544-5W.

"Mr. L. SCOTT     asked the Under-Secretary of State for War whether he is aware that until recently there was a very well-built and equipped camp accommodating about 1,400 men, all the huts being on concrete blocks, on the west side of Bidston Hill, near Birkenhead; that this camp was recently dismantled and taken up, including the concrete foundations, and the equipment removed; that the military authorities have now again requisitioned the site for use as a camp for German prisoners of war and are now engaged in rebuilding it; and whether he 2545W will give full particulars of the causes of this waste of public money and see that those responsible are held to blame?

Owing to the difficulty in obtaining supplies of new hutting, it became necessary in August last to transfer some of the sectional hutting at Bidston to provide accommodation for American troops. Recently, at the urgent request of the National Union of Railwaymen, it was decided to give up the occupation of the Convalescent Home at Leasowe Castle belonging to the union. To enable this to be done, it is necessary to transfer a number of German prisoners of war, and as there was no other accommodation available for them, it was considered that the most economical arrangement was to use what was left of Bidston Camp and provide additional accommodation required by the erection of some hutting which was available."

So it look like they were moved out of Leasowe Castle to Bidston Hill.

"German prisoners of war were housed in Leasowe Castle. It's low lying around here, the River Birket filters off much of the surface water. By 1917 the watercourse was in disrepair, and the engineer in charge of the Birkett renovation scheme applied to the Cheshire Agricultural Committee for a workforce of German labour. In early September 140 prisoners arrived as labour to clear the Birkett. The prisoners and their armed escorts were housed at Leasowe Castle for almost the duration of the war. By mid August they had cleared of weeds, reeds and silt a distance of 1200 yards. An additional request for a further fifty men with guards was granted.  Later objections concerning the good accomodation of the POW's compared to the battalion on Bidston Hill (outside Birkenhead) resulted in a change of billets. The prisoners were paid for their agricultural labours and appear to have done quite well out of the arrangement."


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Re: WW1 prisoner of War Camp on Wirral
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 August 12 14:18 BST (UK) »
Colin, thanks that is amazing, also it says about 140 POW's so we are not talking a huge number.