1891 Lookup please

[Paul]

Hello Bob, try this.
Marriage; St Marks Connah's Quay, 4 July 1887.
Thomas Shaw. 36. Mariner. C/Q.Father Hugh. Master Mariner.
Susannah Jones. 40.           C/Q.  """""  John. Labourer.
Witnesses. Richard Hughes and Sarah McLaud?

Marriage; Northop, Sep 24 1845.
Hugh Shaw. 21. Mariner. Wepre. Father, Thomas, Collier.
Mary Ann Jones. 18.            """"      """"   Benjamin, Butcher.
Witnesses. John Hughes and Ann Hughes.

Have a look on the 1881 for Mary Shaw, Thomas is a 30 Year old Sailor at Home with his Mum.

Paul.

[Tati]

Hi BobtheBee,

I have just found Hugh in 1901 on board the Manxman (RG13/5212, Folio 68) at Connah Quay Flint:
Hugh Shaw, mate, widower, 46, b. Connahs Quay 
 
Tanja

   

[Paul]

Hi Bob,
Didn't have time to send this last night.
Baptisms of the Children of Hugh & Ann Shaw. Wepre. Master Mariner.
April 1 1877. Samuel Dodd.
March 16 1879. Phoebe.
May 1 1881. Margaret Davies.
Jan 8 1888. John.

Paul.

[BobtheBee]

Thanks Paul & Tanja,

Your help has been very useful.

Paul ,where do you get the precise wedding information from as it annoys me that I normally have to use the registry office as the actual wedding place.

Bob

[JonShaw58]

A lot here and 'fess that I have not read it all - however I am the grandson of Capt Hugh Shaw - born Connahs Quay 1881, died 1966 in Gloucester Royal Infirmary following a road traffic accident/collision. If that connects up with anyone/anything then let me know.

Jon Shaw

[BobtheBee]

Hi Jon,

My partner Julia Nelson's grandmother Mary Elizabeth Shaw's father was Thomas Shaw (1851-1921) his father was Hugh had a son Hugh (b. 16/101853).

My info says he had a son Hugh born 1883, an in 1901 was an Abel Seaman.

So this could be him?

Bob

[JonShaw58]

Hi Bob - my grandfather Hugh Shaw was born on 15 October 1881 in a house next door to the Halfway House Inn at Connah's Quay.

His siblings included Thomas, William, Elizabeth (Llibby) and Phoebe.

His parents were Humphrey Shaw (1846-1923) and Mary Dennis (born circa 1849).
I understand from other members on my family that Humphey's parents were Thomas Shaw (b.1790?) and Phoebe ?; and Thomas Shaw's parents in turn were William Shaw and Betty Malkin; and back before that William's parents were John Shaw and Mary ?.

There's clearly more than one Hugh Shaw - but if from Connah's Quay are probably related. It was just that in this thread there is reference (from Tati/Tanja) to a Hugh Shaw from 1901 census records where the names look like those of my great grandfather, grandfather and great-uncles.

Jon

[BobtheBee]

Hi again Jon,

My posting of yesterday got a bit garbled (too many Hugh's), and should have said:_

My partner Julia Nelson's grandmother Mary Elizabeth Shaw's father was Thomas Shaw (1851-1921). His father was Hugh (1824-?) who married Mary Ann Jones.

They had 6 children to my knowledge, one of whom was Hugh (b. 16/10/1853).

He married Anne Dodd and produced 8 children, including a son Hugh born 1883, who according to the 1901 was an Abel Seaman.

I hope that makes it a bit clearer, because everytime I look at it I get confused.

Anyway Mary Elizabeth Shaw married an american John Pratt, and continued to live in the Welsh bit of Chester until her death in 1989. She had 11 children.

I've just seen your post of yesterday, and I have for Hugh born 1824 parents of Thomas & Phoebe Hughes (b.1800) married 1823 Hawarden. They had 3 children Hugh, John, and Henry.

Bob

[JonShaw58]

Many thanks Bob - I had always suspected that the information passed to me had a few holes in it - I have never got round to researching for myself.

I have the same Thomas Shaw (born c.1790) and Phoebe (thanks for the surname of Hughes) born 1800. The age leap to my great grandfather Humphrey Shaw born 1846 is clearly too great. However - I wonder if your information gives the answer that there's another generation to insert - so Humphrey's father was one of the 3 sons of Thomas and Phoebe - i.e. either Hugh, John or Henry?

Does this make sense from the informatiomn you have? Do you know of anyone who may have already researched this side of the family?

Kind regards

Jon