Margaret who married a Clark

[whippetwalker]

Help again if possible for the elusive joining of margaret Atkinson and George Clark.

By searching for each, I get 3 separate entries for them in the BMD index. Jan 71, Oct 73 and Jan 73 but this one is marked tynemouth for margaret and Newcastle for george.
Went on to family search but couldn't get anything there.
Can you advise me where to go to try and tie them up.

Thanks for reading

[WolfieSmith]

There is this Margaret Harrison in Newcastle in 1861. Would be a suitable bride for the marriage in Gateshead in Dec 1871.

1861 census.
40 Percy St., Newcastle,
Boarding with a Stafford family,
Henry Taylor, visitor, Married, 25, Coachman (dom serv), b. Northumberland, Alnwick,
Mary Taylor, visitor, mar, 25, b. Cumberland, Hayton,
Margaret Harrison, visitor, 11, b. Cumberland, Brampton.
RG 9/3820/18/30

Can't find her in 1871, not with the Taylors. But this would appear to be her in 1851.

1851 census.
Front Street, Brampton,
Thomas Harrison, head, 36, Grocer, b. Cumberland, Brampton,
Jane Harrison, wife, 26, b. Cumberland, Hayton,
Margaret Harrison, dau, 1, b. Cumberland, Brampton.
HO107/2427/145/25

Ancestry has Margaret aged 4, thegenealogist has her aged 6, but it looks more like 1 with a blob after it to me.

Fits with this birth - Margaret Harrison, Dec Qtr 1849, Brampton.

And this possible marriage - Thomas Harrison and Jane Elliott, Dec Qtr 1848, Brampton.

And this one - Henry Taylor and Mary Elliott, Jun qtr 1860, Brampton.

According to a few tangled public trees on Ancestry, Margaret Harrison is the niece of the Mary Taylor (formerly Elliott) in 1861 census, Newcastle, but disappears after that.

Looks a good candidate, but just speculation, you really need a birth cert to confirm your Margarets maiden name.

Alan.

[whippetwalker]

There is this Margaret Harrison in Newcastle in 1861. Would be a suitable bride for the marriage in Gateshead in Dec 1871.

1861 census.
40 Percy St., Newcastle,
Boarding with a Stafford family,
Henry Taylor, visitor, Married, 25, Coachman (dom serv), b. Northumberland, Alnwick,
Mary Taylor, visitor, mar, 25, b. Cumberland, Hayton,
Margaret Harrison, visitor, 11, b. Cumberland, Brampton.
RG 9/3820/18/30

Can't find her in 1871, not with the Taylors. But this would appear to be her in 1851.

1851 census.
Front Street, Brampton,
Thomas Harrison, head, 36, Grocer, b. Cumberland, Brampton,
Jane Harrison, wife, 26, b. Cumberland, Hayton,
Margaret Harrison, dau, 1, b. Cumberland, Brampton.
HO107/2427/145/25

Ancestry has Margaret aged 4, thegenealogist has her aged 6, but it looks more like 1 with a blob after it to me.

Fits with this birth - Margaret Harrison, Dec Qtr 1849, Brampton.

And this possible marriage - Thomas Harrison and Jane Elliott, Dec Qtr 1848, Brampton.

And this one - Henry Taylor and Mary Elliott, Jun qtr 1860, Brampton.

According to a few tangled public trees on Ancestry, Margaret Harrison is the niece of the Mary Taylor (formerly Elliott) in 1861 census, Newcastle, but disappears after that.

Looks a good candidate, but just speculation, you really need a birth cert to confirm your Margarets maiden name.

Alan.

Thanks Alan, amazing detective work, but to be sure of my Margaret,  I agree that I need a  birth certificate.  I am going to try and get my grandmother Jane Clarks birth Certificate, which will presumiably give me Margaret's  maiden name.
Working back from the marriage when she was 22 in July 1910, I have been looking to find her in 1888 and 1887.
My daughter in law thinks I would be better approaching Newcastle directly to get the document as they may be a bit helpful and look at the possibles and send me the correct one? 

Thanks again for your trouble, will post again if I find her.
Jean

[whippetwalker]

I sent off to the Tynemouth office and they couldn't find any record, but forwarded it to Newcastle for a further search.  Just heard from Tynemouth today that they hadn't managed to trace her.  A mystery!

I have been looking to see if I can find George and Margarets' marriage, but not having much joy there either.  I found a Murf family tree with their margaret, daughter of John Clark from Keswick and Catherine from Scotland, married to my George Clark from Stisted.  Have sent them a message and haven't heard how sure they are of their facts yet.

George and Margarets first child was born 1874, so have been searching round that date, in Cumberland (she comes from Park, Cumberland) Newcastle, Essex in case they went to Georges home town.

Has anyone any idea what I might do next?

Thanks for reading.

[WolfieSmith]

A baptism at Blenheim St. Wesleyan, Newcastle.

Jane Clark, born 6 April 1886, baptized 12 April 1886. Parents George and Margaret Clark of 7 Sunderland St., Newcastle.

Same address as the family in 1881 census. No mothers maiden name given unfortunately, but it does give you a birth date to aim at for the cert. She is aged 4 in 1891 census, just knocks a couple of years off as she gets older.

Jane Clark, b. April - June qtr 1886, Newcastle, vol 10b page 47.

You can order the certificate conditional on the parents being George and Margaret, but given her birth date this is probably the one.

Alan.

[whippetwalker]

  Thanks, you make it seem so easy.  Will send off with fingers crossed, but it does look promising.  Thanks everso.

A baptism at Blenheim St. Wesleyan, Newcastle.

Jane Clark, born 6 April 1886, baptized 12 April 1886. Parents George and Margaret Clark of 7 Sunderland St., Newcastle.

Same address as the family in 1881 census. No mothers maiden name given unfortunately, but it does give you a birth date to aim at for the cert. She is aged 4 in 1891 census, just knocks a couple of years off as she gets older.

Jane Clark, b. April - June qtr 1886, Newcastle, vol 10b page 47.

You can order the certificate conditional on the parents being George and Margaret, but given her birth date this is probably the one.

Alan.

[whippetwalker]

Thanks, you make it seem so easy.  Will send off with fingers crossed, but it does look promising.  Thanks everso.

A baptism at Blenheim St. Wesleyan, Newcastle.

Jane Clark, born 6 April 1886, baptized 12 April 1886. Parents George and Margaret Clark of 7 Sunderland St., Newcastle.

Same address as the family in 1881 census. No mothers maiden name given unfortunately, but it does give you a birth date to aim at for the cert. She is aged 4 in 1891 census, just knocks a couple of years off as she gets older.

Jane Clark, b. April - June qtr 1886, Newcastle, vol 10b page 47.

You can order the certificate conditional on the parents being George and Margaret, but given her birth date this is probably the one.

Alan.

I'm afraid it was the wrong one, the margaret didn't match the other details.  Took ages to get a reply as my request got lost in the electronics somewhere. 

I'll have to make a journey up there I suppose to see if I can sort through the records.  Unless anyone has any better ideas.

Thanks for your help.

Jean

[whippetwalker]

I have found a family tree that quotes Margaret Boston as the Wife of George Clark.

I did a search on find my past, and it came up with a marriage in 1871 in Newcastle.  But I haven't a subscription and can't actually afford one so couldn't view the results.  I wonder if anyone who has been helping me could investigate?
regards
Jean

[WolfieSmith]

Jean,

What was the info on the Jane Clark birth cert? Was it not for the one born 6 April 1886, Parents George and Margaret?

Alan.