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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 18 August 12 08:51 BST (UK) »
That is good news, Gordon  :) So, confirmed, Ann it is.

Can we just check on dates?

Keyboard's 1871 census for Georgina shows her already married to Robert Graham - was this in February 1870? So, from the cert, mother Ann shows as married to x Curl by then?

What happened to her other daughter Jane Wylie, b. 1853?

So the options:

  • She travelled to the US, single for work and married there?
  • She married in England - FreeBMD should give some clues on possible marriages.
  • She married in Scotland - Scotlands People would be the main official source for info.
  • FamilySearch should also be a good index to check on, particularly for Scotland for this period.

The surname Curl is likely to have lots of variants including possibly 'Mc' and extensions of Curl/e/y etc.

Would also be good to get a further check on the married name for Ann. Possibly from Georgina's death cert or daughter Jane Wylie if anything can be sourced for her?

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 18 August 12 09:06 BST (UK) »
Who were the parents/mother of the two other grandchildren from 1861?

William, aged 4, b. Canonbie
Margaret, aged 3, b. Canonbie

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 18 August 12 19:23 BST (UK) »
I regret that I do not know the answer to that. It cannot have been Mary or Jane as we have them more or less sewn up. There is of course Margaret weho remained a spinster until her death, and Robert who took over as blacksmith when his father died. That leaves Wilhelmina. The granddaughter annie was Wilhelmonas. She remained a spinster and spent some time as a grocer in Langholm, and her daughter annie lived with her. Annie then married a Mr; Heeney who was a postmaster and grocer in Carlisle. Wilhelmina went to live with them, and she died in Carlisle. She was interred in her parents grave in Canonbie. George Scotts oldest son John, by Ann Taylor is my GG Grandfather. He and his wife had a son William of a similar age to the one who went to live with George and his wife. This William died in Kelso when he was 23 and is interred with his parents in Annan. I think that the name is coincidental. I dont think we will be able to find out much about these two grandchildren

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 19 August 12 20:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Is this therefore Georgina in 1871?
Can you help me please, I would like to look at the 1901 Census for Georgina Graham, but cant get it up on Ancestry or Family Searcg. Can you say what I might be doing wrong.
Regards
Gordon
Robert Graham 36 occ Coal Miner b Westerkirk
Georgina 23 b Canonbie
Ann 0 b Canonbie
Residing at Rowanburn, Canonbie
Census ref RG10/814/1/31

In 1901 now a widow, she has a Margaret Scott aged 42 single b Canonbie as a visitor
Census ref RG13/.814/9/5
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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 19 August 12 20:56 BST (UK) »
From the quote I just put up, can you help me to find the 1901 census you refer to. I have tried Ancestry and Family search but with no luck.
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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 19 August 12 21:11 BST (UK) »
From Pam's details from earlier. Saw this a couple of days ago. Think it is this one, with the age for Georgina mis-transcribed:

Georgina Graham 31, Miners Widow (coal) b. Canonbie
Janie Graham 20, daughter
Robert Graham 9, son
Maggie Scott 42, visitor, Domestic Servant,  b. Canonbie

Address: Hollowshillgate, Canonbie

I also thought Maggie Scott above was one of the grandchildren of George and Ann that needed to be figured out (along with William b. 1856/7 and Mary b. 1860c).

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 19 August 12 21:20 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census shows that Maggie is living with her Aunt Wilhelmina in High Street Langholm. Wilhelmina is a grocer and Maggie is also shown as a grocer. By 1901, Wilhelmina had moved to Carlisle to live with her daughter Annie Heeney, nee Scott. Maggie must have gone to stay with Georgina by 1901. There is a Maggie Scott living at 23 Charlotte Street, Carlisle in 1911. She is a grocer. She died in carlisle in 1928, so I will have to get hold of a death certificate to see if it is the same Maggie.

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #25 on: Monday 20 August 12 09:39 BST (UK) »
Pity if she died in England given English death certs don't include the same info as Scottish ones.

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Re: George Scott, blacksmith in Canonbie
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 19 January 23 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know what happened to the blacksmith's forge in Hollows after the death of Robert Scott in 1900. Also, are the buildings still there?