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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 21:38 BST (UK) »
Allan,

No I cannot see him in any of the earlier census.
Probably a corrupt spelling of the Swinnerton name.
I have tried a few but no luck yet.
1841 and 1851 looked at.

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 22:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,

My source was a fiche of the original Church Register.

I have access to most of St Mary's and St Leonard's, Bridgnorth Church Registers. Also some (not sure which without checking) Oldbury Registers.
Based on what others have found for you, do you want to compile a list of events for me to search for?

I've made my own transcription of all the Bridgnorth / Oldbury / Quatford census. I've transcribed some family members as SWINERTON, SWINNERTON, SWISHERTON from 1851 onwards, right through to their burial in Bridgnorth. Apart from his marriage, no Reuben is listed under any spelling variation.

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 11:53 BST (UK) »
Gwynne,

Reuben is shown as died 04 Aug 1887 Kingswinford. the same place as his wife
Mary Wall gave as her place of birth.
I would be very interested in any information that you may have on any of this name,
and the variations. I certainly would appreciate you looking for me, and I will compile
a list for you.

You have also added another way of the spelling of the SWINNERTON name. Of
the many that I have seen over the years the SWISHERTON one is new to me.

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Brian.

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 15:46 BST (UK) »
Gwynne,

I was wondering how far back does your fiche of the church
registers go?
It would be an achievement to find if it is possible to connect
the father of Reuben. John SWINNERTON to other SWINNERTON
families in the area.

Brian.


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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 18:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian,

I believe it would help to list the known family so far;

You now have the marriage John SWINNERTON to Isabella WELLINGS on 4th October 1808 at St Andrews church, Quatt, Shropshire.

They Christened these children;
Martha Swinnerton 1st November 1808 in Quatford, Shropshire.
William Swinnerton 26th Jan 1810 in Morville, Shrops.
Humphrey 12th March 1812 in Quatford.

On the 1841 census, John SWINNERTON, age 50 and Isabella, age 50, are at Cross Houses, Bridgnorth, they have with them;
William, age 25. Catherine, age 20, Eliza age 15 and Frederick age 15.
(as we know, the relationship isn't given on the 1841 but let's assume they are a family group)

So that's 6 children so far.

You apparently know that Reuben, b. approx. 1815 was another child.
In 1841 Reuben SWYNNETON, age 25, Lab, not born in County, was in Kingswinford.
You now have his marriage in 1845 in Bridgnorth.
In 1851 Reuben SWINERTON, age 35, was with his wife Mary and son Alfred in Kingswinford (living next to his In Laws)
Still there in 1861 & 1871.

His Mother Isabella SWINNERTON, widow, is in Bridgnorth in 1851 and 1861.

On the 1851 to 1891 census, there is a James SWINNERTON, b. approx 1812 in Quatford. No.8 child perhaps?
Married to Elizabeth, they spent most of their lives at Woodlands Lodge, Chetton before dying within a few days of each other in Bridgnorth in Jan 1894.

It seems Catherine SWINNERTON, remained single. In 1861 she's in Bridgnorth & by 1871 she is the Inn Keeper of The Reindeer Inn. A 1870 Trade Directory lists Miss Catherine Swinnerton of The Reindeer Inn. 21 North Gate.
Although The Reindeer Inn closed many years ago, the frontage of building still stands virtually unchanged. I have several old photographs showing The Reindeer Inn as it was.

Humphrey SWINNERTON married Elizabeth Loughton in 1838 and can be found in Chelmarsh on various census.

Eliza SWINNERTON married William FOWLER on 5 June 1842 at Oldbury.
You should easily find them, with children, in the Bridgnorth area.

More later on William & Frederick, etc etc ........

Gwynne

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 August 12 19:18 BST (UK) »
Gwynne,

What can I say but many thanks. Its obvious that you have been busy.
The Swinnerton name is plentiful in and around this area. And it is believed
that they are all from the family.  But proving this is the problem.  Plenty of
research was done in the eighties, but none since.

The James that you mention was infact from another family. He was born
16 August 1809 Bridgnorth married Elizabeth Horton Dec 1839 Wednesbury.
And yes I have them both shown died within a few days like you rightly say,
in Glazely. Do you have the records for this area?

The problem I have is connecting these two families. James gives his father as
Thomas and Reuben has John.  It is assumed that both these two fathers are brothers,
but not proven.

I thank you again for all the information.
Brian.

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 August 12 15:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian,

According to the local newspaper 'The Bridgnorth Journal' issue dated 6th Jan 1894, James Swinnerton, age 84, died at No.16 St Leonard's, on 2nd Jan.
The 13th Jan 1894 issue records that Mrs Elizabeth Swinnerton, age 86, also died at No.16 St Leonard's, on 7th Jan.
Source - my own book 'Bridgnorth – News and Events between 1852 and 1900'

Details of that marriage at St Mary's Church on 31st Dec 1860.
Frederick SWINNERTON, of full age, bachelor, Game keeper, of Bridgnorth. Father = John SWINNERTON, a Labourer.
to
Annie PALMER, of full age, a widow, -, of Bridgnorth. Father = Thomas GLOVER? an Inn keeper.

Frederick chr.1823 and his family can be found on various census in Underhill St, Bridgnorth.
He had a son Frederick William in 1869 who in turn married Martha and had at least 5 children.

In the local newspaper 'The Bridgnorth Journal' issue dated 14th Dec 1907 - The Town Council discussed a report that the Custodian of the Castle grounds, Thomas Greaves had been discharged and the position offered to Frederick SWINNERTON of Underhill Street.

My file shows there was an article in 'The Bridgnorth Journal' issue dated 20th Jan 1984, about a poem copied out by Frederick William SWINNERTON. I need to check that article out.

William SWINNERTON chr.1810, remained single, living at various addresses in Bridgnorth.

All these SWINNERTON burials in Bridgnorth Municipal Cemetery can be linked to your family;

Anne SWINNERTON, Widow, age 87 of Bridgnorth. Buried 26th Feb 1927. Grave No.0160 Consecrated.
Frederick SWINNERTON, a Gardener, age 71 of Underhill Street. Died at The Beeches, Madeley. Buried 21st Feb 1940. Grave No.1107 Consecrated.
Ellen Elizabeth SWINNERTON, age 80 of Priory View. The Mall, Bridgnorth. Buried 29th Sept 1981. Grave No.0072 Section A.
Frederick SWINNERTON, a Rabbit catcher, age 76. Buried 13th Apr 1905. Grave No.2922R Consecrated.
Martha SWINNERTON, Wife of Frederick, age 43, 22 Underhill Street. Buried 26th Oct 1912. Grave No.1303C Consecrated.
William SWINNERTON, a Gardener, age 73 of 53 Tasley Close. Buried 22nd Jan 1973. Grave No.0072 Section A.

If required, I could check to see if there are any headstones.

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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 25 August 12 09:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian,

A day trip to Shropshire Archives to find SWINNERTON’s seemed a good idea.

First confirmed the marriage at Quatt Church on 4 Oct 1808 of John SWINNERTON to Isabella WELLINGS. Both of the Parish. Both made their mark. Witnesses Thomas PUGH and Sarah HITCHCOCK.

Found the Christening of all known children of John & Isabella, which also confirmed those shown on Family Search.
There were no fiche copies of some Registers around the 1800’s period but an excellent old transcript was available.

Quatford Church;

26 April 1778. Marriage of William SWINNERTON to Milloney ROWLEY.
16 Dec 1778. Chr. of George to William & Milloney SWINNERTON.
21 Jan 1781. Chr. of Martha to William & Milloney SWINNERTON.
6 May 1798. Chr. of Edward to William & Milloney SWINNERTON.

23 July 1799. Marriage of George SWINNERTON, Forgeman to Susannah JONES.
29 April 1800. Chr. of Martha to George & Susannah SWINNERTON.
6 Dec 1801. Chr. of May to George & Susannah SWINNERTON.
13 March 1803. Chr. of Ann to George & Susannah SWINNERTON.
4 Sept 1804. Burial of May SWINNERTON.

4 Dec 1804. Chr. of Harriet, natural dau of Martha SWINNERTON.
1 Nov 1808. Chr. of Martha to John & Isabella SWINNERTON.
20 Nov 1808. Burial of Martha SWINNERTON.
8 Sept 1811. Chr. of James, son of Sarah SWINNERTON.
8 March 1812. Chr. of Humphrey to John & Isabella SWINNERTON.
15 July 1814. Reuben, son of John & Anabella SWINNERTON, Labourer of Eardington.
14 Sept 1817. Catherine, dau of John & Isabella SWINNERTON, Labourer of Quatford.
13 Sept 1820. Eliza, dau of John & Isabella SWINNERTON, Labourer of Quatford.

2 July 1820. Marriage of Francis MILES to Eliza SWINNERTON.

Oldbury Church Christening;
29 July 1823. Frederick, son of John & Isabella SWINNERTON, Labourer of Cross Houses.

Morville Church Christening (from transcript)
26 Jan 1810. Chr. of William to John & Isabella SWINNERTON.

Hope it helps,
Gwynne
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Re: Swinnerton Marriage
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 August 12 13:41 BST (UK) »
Yes Gwynne,

It certainly does help, and I thank you once again for your help.
I wondered about that poem by Frederick SWINNERTON in 'The Bridgnorth Journal' issue dated 20th Jan 1984 if you could yes please check it out for me.
Also any reference to those headstones would be welcome.

I also wondered if on your next visit to the Shropshire Archives. If you
could possible look up the The Shrewsbury Chronicle which is on microfilm
and starts in 1772 for me.
The news report is often more detailed than the coroners report which
we talked about.

I am interested in  Morris Swinerton who died in Sep 1781 at Sellatyn, Oswestry.
There was  an inquest into his death at the Eagles, which I am told was a public
house.

Regards
Brian.