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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 August 12 11:00 BST (UK) »
Good Morning all and thanks for your thoughts and replies.

William Ernest Stafford birth 1901  cert states father as William Stafford as a farm labourer  and mother as Fanny Stafford nee Glover. So William Stafford (sen) marries Fanny Glover in 1893 & NOT  Agnes Gutteridge in 1911. And William (sen) was dead by 1901 & his death cert states he was a farm labourer.    Marriage cert gives witnesses as Henry Glover & Mary Lizzie Glover.  And cert states that William's father William Stafford is a labourer.

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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 August 12 12:14 BST (UK) »
The Robert Stafford who had son William in Little Gonerby by what I suspect is his first wife Rebecca, as he appears with a Mary on later census, was from Burton Coggles.  There is also a William and Martha Stafford in the same parish who is probably Robert's brother but their son William isn't born until 1881 so can't be the husband of Fanny Glover. :(

I have a Susan Stafford born Great Casterton, Rutland in 1809, married three times, her third husband whom she married in 1860 was a William Stafford born Colsterworth 1813.  She is probably the Susan Stafford buried in Burton Coggles in 1861.  Whether there is any link between Susan and her third husband I have no idea at present, but they did move around a bit. ;)

However, the Robert and William Stafford in Little Gonerby are the sons of William born 1813 Colsterworth and his first wife Ann.  Interestingly the Greetham Staffords do appear to have been descended from the Empingham Staffords, whose ancestor John Stafford was the Uncle of the Susan who married William Stafford of Colsterwoth. ;D
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 August 12 12:32 BST (UK) »
There is a William Stafford born 1869 Exton (rather than Streeton which several ancestry trees list it as)  to William and Mary Stafford living in Greetham in 1871 and 1881.  He seems to disappear after that and the 1911 census for his parents lists 7 children 1 dead.  This William senr is a stone mason but his son William was an ag lab.  Just wondering if the professions were mixed about. 

It may be worth you looking at the Greetham family.  William Stafford born 1869 would appear to have been born in Greetham rather than Exton, he's listed as Greetham on 1871 and 1891 census, but Exton in 1881.  On the latter he's an ag lab in Oakham.  There is no sign of him after 1891 although the remainder of his family are in Greetham.  William snr in 1871 is an ag lab but later listed as a stone mason, but all his sons are appear to have been ag labs.  While it doesn't tie in completely with the marriage you have, there doesn't appear to be another William in the immediate area.  May be worth following through to see which of William and Mary Stafford of Greetham's children are dead by 1911 as the census says only one of the 7, if all the others can be accounted for it could still suggest your William could be this one.  You may get lucky and find a sister appearing in Barrowby, albeit a long shot.
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 August 12 13:53 BST (UK) »
Hi smudwhisk
Yes the Robert  Stafford who had William from Little Gonerby I have William's birth cert & yes his mother was Rebecca Poucher.
Robert marries Rebecca Poucher 16 May 1867 at the Register Office in the district of Sleaford . Robert & Rebecca are both shown as coming from Culversthorpe, William Stafford is Roberts father both have occupations as farm labourers. Witnesses Alice & George Poucher.
Rebecca dies in 1875 and Robert marries Mary Archer

24 Dec 1876 in the Parish Church of Swayfield  Robert a widower labourer of Grantham father William Stafford labourer. Witnesses J Stead ? & Elizabeth Archer.
Interesting Mary Archers father Thomas Archer is a Mason 
I have copies of both marriage certs 

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Bedfordshire; Cardington, Trueman, Wilstead  Bridges, Clark(e), Redman
Essex; Eady, Newman, Copsey, Rawlin, Gilders, Smith  
Rotherhithe; Henderson, Eady. Lambert
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 August 12 15:14 BST (UK) »
Hope this does not confuse but on the 1881/1891  census I found living 35,New street (which is Manthorpe cum Little Gonerby on census).
1881.
 Robert Stafford b c1841 Burton Coggles
Mary             "    b c1839  Swayfield
William          "   b. c 1871 Grantham
Joseph          "   b .c1880       "

1891
Same as above including.
Flory Stafford   b.c 1883 Grantham
Robert   "         b.c 1887      "



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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall completed
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 August 12 18:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy
Thanks for all those census records, like I've said my William's father is a William Stafford ... not Robert.  And William died January 1901 from Typhoid fever in Grantham Hospital ... so he won't be on 1911 census
Thanks for taking the time to look into things

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Bedfordshire; Cardington, Trueman, Wilstead  Bridges, Clark(e), Redman
Essex; Eady, Newman, Copsey, Rawlin, Gilders, Smith  
Rotherhithe; Henderson, Eady. Lambert
Rutland & Bedfordshire  Staffod, Glover, Tom(b)lin
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 September 12 08:42 BST (UK) »
Having followed the children of William and Mary Stafford nee Norris born Greetham through to the 1911 Census, the only child I can't find is William born 1869.  All the others are accounted for and as they list one child dead on the 1911 Census, this would tend to make a good case that your William could be their son.  I suspect William may well have only been a stone mason's labourer rather than a stone mason.  The Empingham Staffords were often listed as stone masons from the early 1800s.
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall Completed
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 November 12 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Yes I've now had time to follow through and have come to the same conclusion,  there also  appears to be some names that have followed through the generations.  Thank you very much for your imput!!!!!

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Leicestershire; Rothley,  Fowkes, Biddles, Dawson, Allen, Lambert, Tebbett, Needham , Horner, Cooper, Pagett, Jaques, Kinton, Newbald, Duffill    Halford, Cope, Bywater , Hunt
Bedfordshire; Cardington, Trueman, Wilstead  Bridges, Clark(e), Redman
Essex; Eady, Newman, Copsey, Rawlin, Gilders, Smith  
Rotherhithe; Henderson, Eady. Lambert
Rutland & Bedfordshire  Staffod, Glover, Tom(b)lin
Suffolk  (Wissington) Eady.
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Re: Stafford family of Barrowby Brick wall Completed
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 November 12 19:32 GMT (UK) »
Glad to be of help, it's also added some more to my tree. ;D  If you ever work out where the John and Ann Stafford who ended up in Pickworth in the 1690s came from, please let me know.  They remain a mystery at present. ::)
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