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John Smithies born about 1815
« on: Sunday 26 August 12 21:27 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out more about John Smithies who was born in Lindley about 1814. His wife's name was Amelia or Emily but I can't find a marriage record for them.
Can anyone help with this or John's parents please?

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 August 12 22:23 BST (UK) »



See what you think to this :

Marriage: 25th December 1836
John Smithies
Parish: Huddersfield
Spouse: Amelia Dawson
Both signed with the mark of a X.

Their daughter Elizabeth was aged 3 in 1841 and they were living in Huddersfield during that time.

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 August 12 22:33 BST (UK) »
Lindley is a suburb of Huddersfield nowadays and there is this birth on Familysearch.....

John Smithies baptised 4 Aug 1816 St. Peter, Huddersfield, parents Joseph Smithies and Hannah

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 August 12 22:47 BST (UK) »





The above baptism mentioned by 'The Mc' is for a John Howe Smithies, father's occupation - Inn Keeper.

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 August 12 22:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help. The marriage looks very likely. The baptism is possible but it is 2 years later than the DOB mentioned in the censuses. I have found another possibility in the West Yorkshire Births and Baptisms of a John Smithies baptism 30 Oct 1814 in Gildersome son of James and Rachel.Isn't this in the right area too?

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 August 12 23:05 BST (UK) »
There is also a birth of 16 Jan 1811 baptism 17 March 1811 at Elland, father William Smithies, mother Betty.

Elland is 2-3 miles from Lindley.

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 August 12 23:07 BST (UK) »




And Gildersome would be in the parish of Batley :

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Batley/index.html

I'm not convinced by this one.

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 August 12 23:41 BST (UK) »
If it wasn't for the fact that 1811 is even further from 1814 I'd quite like the Elland one. Mother called Betty and we know John's eldest child was Elizabeth.

Don't suppose we know anything about these potential fathers' occupations. We know John was a mason.

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Re: John Smithies born about 1815
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 August 23 19:22 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon,

I have extensive research on John Smithies (b. 01 Jan 1816/ bpt. 17 Mar 1811) from Elland, Eng. Is below matches your search and want more information, please lt me know.

Parents: William and Elizabeth had seven known children, who are detailed on the next tree:
   John      baptised 1811  (1811 – 1894) >> My Line
   Jane                  (1816 – 1899)
   Thomas    baptised 1818  (1818 – 1868)
   William   baptised 1820  (1821 – 1880)
   Benjamin   baptised 1822  (1822 – 1854)
   Elizabeth   baptised 1825
   Mary      baptised 1827.

John Smithies (1811-1894) and Ruth Gledhill (1810-1878) immigrated to America with their 4 Children. Complete child list is below:
Martha Smithies (1832-1856), Scarfula, Never married
Elizabeth Smithies (1834-1914)
William Smithies (1836-1911) -- my line
Feargus Smithies (1840-1920)
Benjamin Franklin (1844-1849), Croup
Thomas Smithies (1847-1921)
Benjamin Franklin (1849-1917)