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Re: 1871 uk census lookup please
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 05:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again it was a Ragen(t) or Bagen(t) not Regan(t) !

Their is a death of a James Frederick Ragent in June 1878 Gravesend 2a 246 aged 38

Also another one a Ragen but he was 95!

The finding of the maiden name of Day is interesting as as you may have noted in my post re William Cramp the Shoemaker, I was having a good deal of trouble locating a Mary Ann in 1851 and 1861?!

Also how do we know he was not born in Australia, is there any mention of him being born in England and when/where?
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 30 August 12 03:12 BST (UK) »
Hi again, finally located Henry George Letchford for you, plus another sibling born after the death of Richard:-

1881 Census

Thomas Shersby 35 occ Teacher of Music b Greenwich
Mary A 37 occ Laundress b Maidstone
Wm 14 Shersby ( This must be William R Letchford) occ Baker Journeyman b Longfield
GEORGE Shersby 11 (This must be Henry G Letchford) b Nursted
Eliza Shersby (This is Eliza Jane Letchford) 9 b Nursted
Residing at 1, Three Tun Yard, Gravesend
Census Ref RG11/873/131/10

1891 Census Eliza Letchford aged 18 b Gravesend is a Domestic Servant for Mary & Thomasina Langley in Southwark Census Ref RG12/357/48/14

Marriage June 1898 Medway 2a 1195 William Still to Eliza Jane Letchford

1901 Census

Eliza Jane Still aged 27 Married occ Barmaid b Gravesend is a lodger with a Higgins family in Chatham Census Ref RG13/726/103/16

1901 Census

William Still aged 24 Married b Sheerness occ Sergeant R M L I on a Severn First Class Cruiser, as Coast Guard Ship off Sheerness Census Ref RG13/817/82/16

I do not know if it was for yourself, but I have looked this man up previously?

I have added the deaths of Eliza Jane Stills and William Stills to above post re deaths
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 30 August 12 19:17 BST (UK) »
Hi again, well another surname to add to the Mary Ann file!

Marriage Roseanna/Rose Hannah Cramp to William Reynolds Dec qtr 1854 Maidstone 2a 704

1861 Census

William Reynolds 39 occ Labourer b Canterbury
Rose A 27 b Maidstone
William 10 b Barming
Richard 5 b Maidstone
Lewis C 3 b Ashford
Frederick 2 b Greenhithe
George 7 months b Maidstone
Mary Ann Fidge 18 Sister in Law b Maidstone
Residing at The Square Hill, Maidstone
Census Ref RG09/502/76/22

1851 Census

Hannah Fidge 47 Widow b New Hithe Kent
Hannah Fidge 10 b Maidstone
Mary Fidge 8 b Maidstone
Matilda Fidge 3 b Lintin ( possibly Linton)
Residing in the Maidstone Union Workhouse
Census Ref HO107/1616/354/20

Birth Mary Ann Fidge March qtr 1843 Maidstone 5 310
Birth Hannah Fidge Sept qtr 1841 Maidstone 5 276
Possible Death for Hannah Dec qtr 1851 Maidstone 5 242 (Senior or junior)?

William Reynolds was married previously to an Elizabeth Cuddington Dec qtr 1849 Maidstone 5 421, possible death for Elizabeth Reynolds March qtr 1854 Maidstone 2a 251

Ruth Cramp marries a Charles Mason in June qtr 1853 Maidstone 2a 664

So was this Mary Ann adopted by William Cramp, if so where does the maiden name Day originate?
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 04 September 12 07:01 BST (UK) »
Hello, have had a good look at what you have sent.
There are 2 1851 Census's entries 1 for William CRAMP & 1 for Hannah FINCH
In William's  is listed a Mary 41 & Hannah's 47 (Widow) is at the Union Workhouse with I presume the 3 younger of their children.  Hannah in 1841 Census was 30..so a little elastic with age or is it possible this could be a badly written '1'
The elder 2 girls were ?working for William therefore I presumed they stayed with him!
I am assuming they separated as William remarries in 1859 (see your entry 28 Aug).  It is preferable to say "widow" than left husband-would this be correct?  Is there any marriage record of William CRAMP & Hannah FINCH?
Also if Hannah Finch(47) is the 1851 death William may have taken on the children again.

Re the Stills (30 Aug).  You had not given me this info previously

Also found an article in the Brisbane Courier Mail in April 1938 Albert Edward Shersby is is promoted to Sub Inspector in the Qld Police Force.  In the article it states he joined in 1909,  the earliest I can find him here in Oz.  He Marries Johanna Duff in Brisbane  1912 Ref is Qld BMD 1912/C1769 Cheers C


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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 September 12 08:46 BST (UK) »
Hi again, I recall looking up the baptisms for the 2 eldest Cramp girls their mother was a Mary, will fill in later unless you can spot on Family Search or sks finds not just them but the other children!
It also may be better if you split Albert Edward Shersby onto the Australian board, with ref to this thread or his possible parents in the UK

Ruth Cramp 17th November 1833 Maidstone
Rosanna Cramp 22nd March 1835 Maidstone
Rachel Cramp 1st January 1837 Maidstone
George Cramp 5th November 1848 Maidstone
Robert Cramp 5th November 1848 Maidstone
Possible death Rachel Cramp Sept qtr 1837 Maidstone 5 226
All baptisms Father William Mother Mary
The second 1851 is a Hannah Fidge not Finch or so it looks, and Williams wife in 1851 is a Mary?
Re re-marriage in 1859 possible death, Mary Cramp Dec qtr 1857 Maidstone 2a 273
William aged 60 Martha aged 50 Robert 22 in Marylebone Middx in 1871 census ref RG10/159/64/25 in 1881 William and Martha RG11/145/27/45 No sign of Robert?
In 1901 Martha Cramp aged 84 is an Inmate/Widow occ Supported by Charity at 26, Christian Union Alms Houses, John Street, Marylebone RG13/111/27/46
Death William Venner Cramp Dec qtr 1885 Marylebone 1a 392 aged 76
Death Martha Cramp Dec qtr 1910 Marylebone 1a 350 aged 91
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 06 September 12 01:22 BST (UK) »
Greetings,
Many thanks again.  Unfortunately I do not know how to move topics onto other other boards.  Please feel free to do so.
Found nothing new at this end. 
Cheers C

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 September 12 20:24 BST (UK) »
Not to worry, gidber- only Moderators can move topics. There's a new one for Albert Edward Shersby now on Australia board-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=615386.new#new