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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:54 BST (UK) »
She has left home by 1901
Lilian M Dudman, Sidney L Dudman, Edward W Dudman, Charles E Dudman and Kenneth L Dudman are with father Joseph
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:56 BST (UK) »
Susannah Dudman Age 38 father Frederick occ  Coachman
William Sams Age 45 father Benjamin
8th January 1916
Newington -  St Andrew
Witnesses Mabel Page and Alice Page

she obviously didn't know her fathers name  ;)
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 17:04 BST (UK) »
Given her Egham birthplace, this looks likely to be Mabel's birth registration:

Birth, Dec qtr 1884

Amy Mabel DUDMAN

Windsor 2c 469

This Amy M  bn Windsor is with her parents Frank and  Emily in Fulham in 1891

Another possible birth for Mabel  :-\
December qtr 1883 
DUDMAN    Mabel Alberta       
Chertsey    2a   48
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 17:08 BST (UK) »
Susannah Dudman Age 38 father Frederick occ  Coachman
William Sams Age 45 father Benjamin
8th January 1916
Newington -  St Andrew
Witnesses Mabel Page and Alice Page

she obviously didn't know her fathers name  ;)

She seems to be with Barnard relatives in 1881 (RG11/1322/25/10) and 1891 (RG12/1009/98/10).

Perhaps her father really was a Frederick? She was born before the Joseph Dudman/Mary Martha Barnard marriage.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 17:12 BST (UK) »
Given her Egham birthplace, this looks likely to be Mabel's birth registration:

Birth, Dec qtr 1884

Amy Mabel DUDMAN

Windsor 2c 469

This Amy M  bn Windsor is with her parents Frank and  Emily in Fulham in 1891

Another possible birth for Mabel  :-\
December qtr 1883 
DUDMAN    Mabel Alberta       
Chertsey    2a   48

Agreed - yes, per earlier censuses she seems to have been born in Byfleet (Chertsey district) rather than Egham (Windsor district) after all.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 17:18 BST (UK) »
1891
RG12/1009 F70 P26
living Stroude Street, Egham

Mary   Dudman Married age 34 Living On Her Means bn Farnham, Surrey
George age 12 bn Egham   
Amelia age 10 bn Egham   
Albert age 8   
Mabel age 7      
Lilly age 5   
Leonard age 3      
Edward age 1 mth
younger children bn Byfleet, Surrey   

Some of the childrens names tie in  :-\
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 September 12 03:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your replies. 

MC8 ~ Your advice is perfect thank you, I will start with the search for collection of Gladys from the foster home.  I am sending letter to LMA today.  I think that this piece of information (if I can get it) will shed light on the family. 

I have found the below entries you have posted but for some reason I really don't think it is the family..... it might be...... the information I gave from the orphanage document may not be accurate (I can't imagine why it isn't).  Which makes it unreasonable to not find them in census.  ????????

I will post when I hear from the LMA.

Thank you again, greatly appreciated.

Sai

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 September 12 08:29 BST (UK) »

I have found the below entries you have posted but for some reason I really don't think it is the family..... it might be...... the information I gave from the orphanage document may not be accurate (I can't imagine why it isn't).  Which makes it unreasonable to not find them in census.  ????????


Where did you get the information about Mabels siblings and their marriages?

Rosie
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 September 12 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie,

The information about the family is from the original orphanage document when Victor was handed in.  Unfortunately Mabel didn't hand Victor or Gladys in as she was working.  A lady that the children were staying with took them to the orphanage and it is her statement that is on the official document.  There are terrible errors in this statement that I have already uncovered regarding Victor. Gladys and Mabel are a mystery, and the family..... who knows now. 
I have sent a letter to the LMA to find out who collected Gladys out of the foster homes and what happened to her, fingers crossed this information can help my search.

Why do you ask?  Can you help?

Kind regards,
Sai