Finding the origin of William CLARINGBO[U]LD

[PrueM]

Thank you, Romany Knaves, that's definitely something to bear in mind.  Every little bit of information will help to solve this puzzle, so I appreciate your input!

Prue

[robertsear]

hHi Pru, I have done a lot of research on the Claringbolds

this gives the baptism of William parents Richard and Mary and the baptism of 4 out of 5 children with his first wife Judith
http://woodchurchancestry.org.uk/romneymarshbaptisms/results.php
You searched for Claringb for the year range 1750-1911.
There are 13 baptisms that match your search criteria.
Year Day/Month Name Parents Parish

17 1764 11-Oct Thomas CLARINBULL otp Ba B Mary HAINES otp Sp Phil Coleman Jose. Rolfe
90 1786 9-Aug William ROLFE otp Wdr B Mary CLADINGBOULD otp Wid Jn Raisbeck Richd. Rolfe

1765 14 July CLARENBOOL    Mary    Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1771 10 February CLARINGBOLD    Thomas    Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1772 23 February CLARINBULL    Richard    Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1774 26 June CLARINBOLD    Jane    Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1775 09 July CLARINGBOLD    Susanna    Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1777 26 January CLARINBOLD    Elizabeth Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1777 23 May CLARINBOLD       John    Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1780 12 March CLARINBOLD    William    Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1787 24 June CLARINGBOULD    Rebecca    Richard & Mary Burmarsh
1793 20 September CLARINGBOULD Elizabeth William & Judith Brookland
1796 23 October CLARINGBOULD    William    William & Judith Dymchurch
1799 27 July CLARINGBOLD    Thomas    William & Judith Dymchurch
1803 14 January CLARINGBOLD    Ann    William & Judith Dymchurch

robert

[PrueM]

Thank you very much Robert    Are you related to the family?

Incidentally, for all following this thread, I have recently (very recently - the past few weeks) been in touch with several Claringbold cousins here in Australia, who I never knew existed, who are descended from the same William of Dymchurch...our combined forces may have cracked William's origins.  When I'm back on my own computer, I'll be able to post the information, just to close things off.

Prue

[robertsear]

Hi Pru, I'm sort of related, a Claringbold married into my tree, and I live in Kent and I visit Dymchurch on a regular basis. and I have lots of Kent parish records.

regards robert

attached a photo I took of the church wardens in dymchurch  William 1n 1800

[robertsear]

Hi Pru, where do you fit into the claringbolds from dymchurch? I'm not sure if I have any  moving down under.

On a separate note, have you been in contact with aussieterry, he has many hundreds in his tree, and sent me the research for the start of a one name study.

I have some more data from Dymchurch if you are interested

Robert

[PrueM]

Hi Robert,

William C is my 5xgreat-grandfather. He and his first wife Judith had a daughter Lydia, who married a Bigg from Sheppey, and that's my line.

There are a few Claringbold descendants in Oz who come from the same William through Lydia's brother (also a William) and we have recently found each other via the internet.  William Junior had three sons - William, Augustus and Alfred - all of whom emigrated to Australia.  I had no idea of this until I met my "new" cousins.

I'm not familiar with aussieterry - is he on Rootschat?  Interesting that you are doing a one name study, I had the same idea of doing one but I know it will be years and years before I get around to doing it, so it's all yours  

I would be interested in any Dymchurch info you have that might be relevant    Thank you!

Prue

[Bonza]

Hi Robert & others following this thread and Hi Prue too of course ...

Robert, I'm one of Prue's Aussie cousins mentioned by Prue. Thank you for contributing to this thread. You say you have many Kent parish records and I have done quite a bit on the Claringbold families of Kent.

I've been researching my Claringbolds for many years and up until fairly recently, Prue,myself and other cousins here were a bit stuck. Now though, having made a few breakthroughs and sorted some of the family out in Kent, I can confidently say that we are now back to Thomas CLARINGBOLD who married Ann PEIRCE on 26 Nov 1711 at Cathedral, Canterbury.

It seems that Thomas and Ann (aka Elizabeth) only had two children, both christened in Hougham:
1. William chr.14 Sep 1712 Hougham md. Jane SPARKS 26 Apr/May 1736 St.George's, Canterbury
    By License. William was of Hougham and Jane was of Capel-le-Ferne.
2. Ann chr.31 Mar 1717 Hougham md. John FRYER 01 Oct 1738 Hougham

It seems William & Jane had only three children:
1. Anne chr.22 Aug 1736 Capel-le-Ferne
2. William chr.08 Aug 1737 Capel-le-Ferne
3. John chr.06 Jan 1739 Capel-le-Ferne

Their son William (#2 above) md. Sarah BOURN 18 Oct 1760 Hougham and also had three children:
1. Ann chr.16 Aug 1761 Hougham
2. William chr.26 Aug 1764 Hougham
3. Elizabeth chr.15 Feb 1767 Capel-le-Ferne

Then William (#2 above) had three marriages:
m1. 06 Jul 1791 in Faversham to Judith (Judeth) WINCLES
       *** 5 issue (Lidia, Elizabeth, William, Thomas & Ann)
m2. 13 Aug 1806 in Mersham to Mary VIGDEN
       *** no issue
m3. 10 Jul 1823 in Dymchurch to Ann (Anne) WILLIAMS (nee REEVE)
       *** 2 issue (Alfred & Ann/Anne)

This William chr.1764 Hougham, died 31 Aug 1860 Romford, Essex, age stated on DC is 99yrs.

This William was the one who was the Churchwarden & Overseer of the Poor at Dymchurch in 1800.

What next?

Confirming the christening and parents of Thomas CLARINGBOLD (NB: his surname was recorded as CLADENBOWL in the Hougham parish records when his two children were christened).

There are 2 or 3 prime candidates from the Canterbury area.

Any ideas Robert or anyone?

Cheer for now, Bonza

[robertsear]

Hi Bonza,

Thanks for your email and details of your research. I can see you logic but need convincing.
My email is email address removed by moderator, please use the secure Rootschat personal message system to exchange personal email addresses, thankyou and am happy to share any resources that I have
I am with you regards to William
Then William (#2 above) had three marriages:
m1. 06 Jul 1791 in Faversham to Judith (Judeth) WINCLES
       *** 5 issue (Lidia, Elizabeth, William, Thomas & Ann)
m2. 13 Aug 1806 in Mersham to Mary VIGDEN
       *** no issue
m3. 10 Jul 1823 in Dymchurch to Ann (Anne) WILLIAMS (nee REEVE)
       *** 2 issue (Alfred & Ann/Anne)

This William chr.1764 Hougham, died 31 Aug 1860 Romford, Essex, age stated on DC is 99yrs.

This William was the one who was the Churchwarden & Overseer of the Poor at Dymchurch in 1800.

The 1851 census has William living with his son Alfred (you can get an image of the pub on Google maps Street view) it states his place of birth is capel. The marriage records of Romney Marsh lists Williams 3rd marriage as living on the isle of Sheppey, ie Eastchurch which is where he is living on the 1851 census

Kent, England, Extracted Parish Records about Wm Claringbould Ann Williams
Text: Wm Claringbould Of Eastchurch wid & Ann Williams of Dymchurch wid, at D. 10 Jul 1823.
Book: Volume 35
Collection: Kent, Surrey, London: - Canterbury Marriage Licences, 1810-1837 (Marriage)

Marriage Dymchurch PR, William Claringbold, Widower of Eastchurch in Sheppey Isle and Ann Williams, Widow of this parish, married by licence 11 July 1823. Wits Eliza Webster & William Holmes
groom's name:   Wm Claringbold
bride's name:   Ann Williams
marriage date:   11 Jul 1823
marriage place:   Dymchurch, Kent, England
indexing project (batch) number:   I00784-7
system origin:   England-EASy
source film number:   1786434

groom's name:   Wm. Williams
bride's name:   Ann Reeve
marriage date:   17 Oct 1803
marriage place:   Dymchurch, Kent, England
indexing project (batch) number:   M01339-0
system origin:   England-EASy
source film number:   1751815


Is this capel near Tonbridge or Capel-le-Ferne (Hougham) ?

I can’t find any Claringbolds around Tonbridge so I agree with Capel-le-Ferne and its close neighbour  Hougham.

My thoughts went with the Dymchurch records  ( I went to the Dymchurch history society meeting and photographed all the claringbold records.
These are also available (free) on the Woodchurch history website (Romney marsh indexes)

William is there with his wife Judith and children.
There are also Richard and Mary and Thomas and Mary

http://woodchurchancestry.org.uk/romneymarshbaptisms/results.php

You searched for Claringb for the year range 1750-1911.

There are 13 baptisms that match your search criteria.

 
Year Day/Month Name Parents Parish
1765 14 July CLARENBOOL       Mary       Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1771 10 February CLARINGBOLD       Thomas       Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1772 23 February CLARINBULL       Richard       Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1774 26 June CLARINBOLD       Jane       Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1775 09 July CLARINGBOLD       Susanna       Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1777 26 January CLARINBOLD       Elizabeth    Thomas & Mary Dymchurch
1777 23 May CLARINBOLD          John       Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1780 12 March CLARINBOLD       William       Richard & Mary Dymchurch
1787 24 June CLARINGBOULD       Rebecca       Richard & Mary Burmarsh
1793 20 September CLARINGBOULD    Elizabeth    William & Judith Brookland
1796 23 October CLARINGBOULD       William       William & Judith Dymchurch
1799 27 July CLARINGBOLD       Thomas       William & Judith Dymchurch
1803 14 January CLARINGBOLD       Ann       William & Judith Dymchurch

I would make the assumption that Richard & Thomas are brothers/uncles so I have been searching for the 3 names together.

I can follow much of your research and have found most of the records in my collections although I don’t have any records for Capel-le-Ferne and its close neighbour  Hougham apart from what is on Familysearch.org


I would like to see a Richard and Thomas in your work to be convinced

Regards Robert

[Bonza]

Hi Robertsear

Thanks for your reply and information. I've got a few things on today, but I'll email you soon about your queries and to share info.

I believe I've been able to place Richard, Thomas & William together too.

Look forward to it and thanks again for responding.

Cheers for now, Bonza