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Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« on: Thursday 20 September 12 16:15 BST (UK) »
I believe the census for Coombs Terrace, Llandaff, Cardiff is missing.  There has been an exhaustive search for the family here on RC.  So that has to be our conclusion.  Now there is the thought that they may be in a Kelly's Directory of the time 1871 does anyone here know if one exists?
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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 September 12 23:36 BST (UK) »
you could ask the family history section of Cardiff Central Library. They have a large selection of directories, some of the late 19th century ones are kept behind the desk.

http://www.cardiff.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=2%2C2868%2C2970%2C4768
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 September 12 01:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey.  I have emailed them,
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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 September 12 16:32 BST (UK) »

Hello

I did go into the library this morning and made some enquiries for you.

They did not have  Kellys 1871  Directory. The person I spoke to checked out
a Cardiff Directory for 1869 and it was not in that book.

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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 September 12 18:32 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for thinking of me when you were there.  I have just had a very nice email from them saying they have looked for Kellys and in other directories but my Coombes are not there.
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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 September 12 20:35 BST (UK) »
There are a number of other directories for this area around this time at

www.historicaldirectories.org

I have had a quick scan and can only find the briefest of records in Worrall's Directory of 1875 for

Brick and Tile Manufacture - Coombes,Charles - Canton

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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 September 12 22:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking Roger.  I don't think there can be any more to find out as the census pages seem to be missing for 1871.

This was found for me by another RC member.  They were building the 5 houses  between 1875 and 1880 because they were gone by 1881.

Coombs Terrace c1870-80s, no longer there.   If you look at a map from the early to mid 1880s you can see a small terrace of homes, roughly where Avoca Place/Wedmore Rd stands today, standing on its own before the rest of the Saltmead area was built. The five homes were built by brickmaker Charles Coombs, four of which housed members of his family, and the terrace was given their name. Bristol-born Coombs had worked at a brickmaker in Newport before moving to Cardiff with his eight children. With two brickworks close by and the huge amount of building work, there was obviously a lot of demand in Cardiff. In 1881, Charles, 62, lived at No1 with wife Ann and son John, a fellow brickmaker, 34, and wife Annie, 37, and their daughter. Next door at No2, lived younger son Thomas, another brickmaker; Two other son Edward, 19, also in the trade and brother James, 16, lived at No3. Eldest son Charles, 38, lived with his wife and children in No 5. The terrace disappears off the map and by the 1890s, the families are living in Penarth Road and Eldon Rd (Ninian Park Road).

I believe it is called "getting the bit between your teeth" when one spends so much time and effort on one small part of a tree.  But now I have resigned myself to the fact that I will not know exactly where they were in 1871
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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 September 12 22:29 BST (UK) »
Just one more entry:-

1871 Post Office Directory Monmouthshire and South Wales

Brick and Tile Makers

Coombs,Charles   Canton Common Cardiff

There are only two entries in the 1871 with this address and neither are him nor can I find him in nearby pages

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Re: Is there a Kelly's Dectory for Cardiff and area in 1871?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 22 September 12 22:41 BST (UK) »
I don't know how near Llandaff and Canton are to each other perhaps they had a yard in Canton and were building in Canton.  I don't think we'll ever know for sure.
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