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JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:06 BST (UK) »
Hi I'm wondering wether anyone may have connections to John Egge (riverboat captain & businessman of Chinese extraction) & his wife, Mary Perring.

According to the online Australian Dictionary of Biography they had 11 children. Is any one able to help me out with the names of those children?

John Egge was a witness to my g-g-grandmother's wedding but it's the other witness named on the certificate I'm most interested in at the moment - 'Adelaide Lenord'. Is it possible Adelaide is an adult daughter of John & Mary?
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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:14 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

NSW BDM is online and free to search

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

eight registrations found there for EGGE, with parents as John and Mary  :)

Adding, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/egge-john-12902  perhaps not all children were born in NSW

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:22 BST (UK) »
Hi,

NSW Electoral Roll 1870, BALRANALD, in the police district of Wentworth.
John EGGE, freeholder, at Wentworth

This indicates to me that he was a British Subject when he enrolled. 

NSW ER 1878 BALRANALD,
John EGGE, freeholder, at Wentworth.

NSW ER 1903, RIVERINA, polling at Wentworth
Edwin David EGGE, captain of steamer
Richard John EGGE, billiard marker

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

NSW State Records Office  ONLINE Naturalisation Index
John EGGE, of Shanghai, China, Date of certificate 10 June 1868.
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=30

That certificate would confirm his British Subject status.   The NSW SRO offers a copy service (there are charges) for photocopies of the file.  Naturalisation Certificates can provide a wealth of family history details, including confirmation of arrival into the Colony (name of ship, date of arrival, length of time at various addresses, status when applying (married/single, name of spouse, number of children etc)

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:43 BST (UK) »
Many thanks JM for your swift replies! From the NSW BDM search it looks like they had a daughter called 'Amelia Adelaide' so that's a thread I can follow.

You're quite right, the other 3 children were possibly born in another colony (most likely SA) so I can check that out at the Family History collection of a neighbouring public library (I come from South Aust). I know his wife's family spent time in SA when they first arrived from Devon.

Thanks again for your research & feedback. Much appreciated. EB
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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 September 12 22:30 BST (UK) »
Looks like their marriage took place in South Australia:

1857

30/461
EGGE
John

PERRING
Mary

Encounter Bay

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/home.html

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 September 12 01:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Leanne, that would make sense.

I've found out since last night that the other children were born in SA so it's all falling into place.

I think Mary Perring had a sister called Adelaide (internet surfing) but her married name was not Lenord so the witness on the marriage cert is still a mystery!

EB
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Elizabeth Jane HARRIS - Kapunda,South Aust/Wentworth,NSW/Mildura,Vic & HARRIS in Kalgoolie/Coolgardie region - West Aust., Thomas KNIGHT - BURRA, GILLESPIE

Families are like fudge, mostly sweet with a few nuts.

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 September 12 07:26 BST (UK) »
From my resource

EGGE John 26 years  Status not recorded  Father unrecorded
PERRING Mary 18 years Status not recorded   Father Peter PERRING
8 Apr 1857
At St Jude Church Port Elliot   EnB 308461

Not to do with your search but I thought you may like to see this church today...was built c1853. There are many photos on the web but some appear distorted.  I think it is a delightful church....have walked past it many times ;D
http://www.flickr.com/photos/a777thunder1/5844084368/

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I've found out since last night that the other children were born in SA so it's all falling into place.

Only one birth registered to this couple in SA

EGGE Richard John
15 Jul 1860
Father John EGGE  Mother Mary PERRING
At Goolwa   EnB 21/69

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I think Mary Perring had a sister called Adelaide (internet surfing) but her married name was not Lenord so the witness on the marriage cert is still a mystery!

If you have a copy of your gggrandmother's marriage cert could you snip the signature and post here.
It is possible you have misread the name of the witness...could it be SEWARD as....

Birth
HILLIER Mary Jane
4 Aug 1851
Father Amos HILLIER  Mother Adelaide PERRING
At Adelaide    Ade 3/249

Marriage
SEWARD William  25 years  Status Single Father unrecorded
HILLIER Adelaide  26 years Status single??  Father unrecorded
11 Feb 1856
At St Jude Church Port Elliot  EnB 26/137

Birth with another variation on the surname

SEUARD John Henery
28 Sep 1858
Father William SEUARD  Mother Adelaide PERRING
At Hindmarsh Island    EnB 16/380

Another variation of the surname - SEAWARD.

When and where did you gggrandmother's marriage take place?

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Re: JOHN EGGE - WENTWORTH, NSW
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 September 12 07:41 BST (UK) »
Your profile is not complete but from your posts I see you live in the Riverland and not that far from me ;)

Cheers
Cando
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