Richard and Harriet Green .. Blenheim Palace ..Oxfordshire COMPLETED THANKYOU

[New Zealander]

Looking for any information please?

My great great grandparents were Richard and Harriet Green.  They emigrated to New Zealand on the ship Wild Deer in 1874.

Richard Green was born at Woodstock on 25.11.1832.  Harriet nee Gardiner was born at Woodstock on 02.04.1831. They had 9 children.  It was believed Richard Green was employed as a Nurseryman in the Blenheim Palace Gardens and his wife Harriet as a lady's maid prior to emigration.

Their employers gave the family a quantity of fine goods to take with them to New Zealand.

Looking for any information on their association with Blenheim Palace.  Have written a couple of times to Blenheim Palace but never received a reply.  Are there any other records available?

Any help or assistance woould be appreciated.

Thank you

Alex G
New Zealand

P.S.  Will be visiting the UK and Blenheim Palace in 2013.

[suzard]

Do you have census records for Richard & family??

If I am looking at the correct family then it seems 1871 (the census before they left ) they were involved in the glove making industry -as were many of their neighbours

1871
Union St Woodstock Oxon
Richard green Head M 36 Glover Woodstock Oxon
Harriett wife 38 Woodstock
Ellen daughter 17 Gloveress Woodstock
Harriett daughter 15 Gloveress Oxford
Emily daughter 13 Gloveress Woodstock
Frederick son 11 scholar Woodstock
Arthur son 8 scholar Woodstock
Annie daughter 6 Scholar Old Woodstock
Harry son 1mth Woodstock
RG10 1449 58 16

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Suz

[CarolA3]

Hi Alex

You might want to read through this earlier thread: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,181638.0.html

It will give you a flavour of Blenheim's response to other researchers - not very helpful I'm afraid.  Your best bet will be the usual BMD + census route to start with.

Good luck,
Carol

[New Zealander]

Suzard and Carol

Thank you for your interest and reply.  Yes you are correct this is the family of Richard and Harriet Green my great great grandparents.  Daughter Harriet married my great grandfather James in Queenstown on 03.01.1876.

One correction Arthur should be Albion but everything else matches including ages.

The information about Blenheim Palace was handed down through our family and recorded by my late father many years ago.  He knew and had met his grandmother Harriet and Harriet's children being his aunts and uncles.

You cannot dis-regard the Census information and there must be an explanation somewhere.  Perhaps the family lived on the Blenheim Palace Estate while employed as glovemakers or changed occupations and were working for Blenheim Palace before emigration to New Zealand?

Either way given the response I have had from Blenheim Palace and your post Carol there seems little chance I will establish anything from the Palace owners

Will now have to give this some thought and decide where to turn next.

I wonder if there would be any Woodstock School records somewhere?

Many thanks

Alex G

[Ruskie]

Glover would have been a specialised occupation, and as most of the family, according to the 1871 census, are in the trade, the story about them working at Blenheim may be incorrect. Stories passed down the generations are often incorrect, but some do have some truth to them. Have you traced the family back further? You might find that earlier generations or a different branch of the family worked at Blenheim.

[Ruskie]

What is Richard's occupation on his son's marriage, and on his own death certificate?

[New Zealander]

Hi Ruskie

Have traced some of the family back to 1740 - 1750 with some certainity but have no idea what their occupations may have been or where they worked.

Alex G

[bucksboy]

If you type in your search engine(google etc.)  Glovemakers of Oxfordshire, you will see what the industry was for yourself.

'The Woodstock Glove Industry - Oxeniensia', is a 12 page wordpro document, which is interesting reading.     Blenheim is in the Parish of Woodstock.


Steve.

[Ruskie]

Hi  Steve. I wouldn't think that someone in their 30s who is a glovemaker is likely to have had a previous occupation as a nurseryman - what do you think?
I am currently on iphone which is a pain to use,  but will try to locate Richard on earlier census when I have use of the PC. it will be interesting to see what his, and perhaps his parent's occupations are on earlier censuses.
 Also Alex, on his marriage certificate .... What was his occupation? And his father's name and occupation?