Lole, Kibworth

[Aussie67]

Hi,

My 4th Great Grandmother was Sarah Lole who married John Gibson on 25th September 1767 in Walgrave. Firstly, thank you for confirming that it was Sarah Lole as the name in the register was neatly written and there has been a big debate as to whether she was LOLE, COLE or LOVE

The information was obtained from:-
The Transcripts of Cold Ashby Parish registers by Sidnes Day Spencer
Walgrave Parish Register

The tree was printed in 2008.

Hoping that the information helps. A relative in Canada saw your recent information on Roots Chat and contacted me.

[Aussie67]

Hi,

Just realised that, yes, my ancestor was Sarah Lole but I have her with the incorrect parents! Back to the drawing board.

[Annie65115]

Hello Aussie

well, there doesn't seem much doubt as to her parentage when she is named in her father's will as his married daughter!

I have seen some trees on Ancestry that have Sarah baptised in the 1740s in Cold Ashby, Northants, but haven't seen any evidence for this. Since parental names weren't given on the ancestry tree, it's possible of course that this was guesswork based on her marriage details. Do you know any more than this?

[Aussie67]

Explanation of the possible Cold Ashby connection for Lole.
I did preliminary research on my ancestors during a visit to Northampton in 1980 but didn’t start doing much more until the 1990s. By 2000, I had been corresponding with fellow researchers of Walgrave families. At this time, it was suggested that William Gibson married Sarah Lole (not Love or Cole) in 1767. Someone checked their records and noticed that a LOLE family were living in Cold Ashby, Northamptonshire.
At this time, I was in Salt Lake City and found that there was a Sarah Lole (born in Cold Ashby) whose birth was in the correct years. I also found someone’s written research listing the LOLE family in Cold Ashby. Unfortunately, I did not check the Wills (time was short). I formed the LOLE Family Tree with the hope that another researcher would correspond with me. No luck and yes, the information went through various people.
Yes, Annie, it pays to be patient as I would never have realized that there was a Leicestershire link.
The Tree that I formed is attached to one of my replies but as far as I can see there’s no connection to the Lole Family in Leicestershire.

Now, to try and find more information about the correct Lole Family.

[Aussie67]

It may be morning in the UK but I've had a long day and yes, I already have to make a correction. Sarah Lole did marry John Gibson.

[willsy]

Maybe it's this one

Sarah Lolle  parents John, Junior and Susanna 3 Jan 1742 Cold Ashby
There's also
Mary 1728
Elizabeth 1729 born Dec 11 Bap Privately 13 Dec
Anne 1732 11 Jan
Samuel 1734 5 May
John 1736 5 Dec
Henry 1739 17 Jun

All Lolle Cold Ashby

[willsy]

Back to Daniel and good old FreeReg

Found the bride, and matches the baptism records you now have for Cornelius and Daniel
County   Middlesex
Place   St George Hanover Square
Church   St George Hanover Square Tr
MarriageDate   18 Feb 1784
Groom Forename   Daniel
Groom Surname   LOLE
Bride Forename   Martha
Bride Surname   SWATRIDGE

and then on F** as Swotridge and it's the parish entry. Didn't think to look for Sole

[willsy]

Hope I'm not confusing too much, but for a John Lole there is a marriage

Boyd's
John Lole
Marriage year    1684
Spouse's first name(s)    Susan
Spouse's last name    Binion
Place    Faculty Office Marriage Licences

On FreeReg

Place    Covent Garden
Church    St Paul Tr
Burial Date    24 Aug 1704
Forename    Susan
Rel 1 Male Forename    John
Rel 1 Surname   LOLE
Surname   LOLE

and

Place   Cowley
Church   St Laurence Ph
MarriageDate    14 Apr 1706
Groom Forename   John
Groom Surname   LOLE   
Groom Parish    St Pauls Covent Garden
Bride Forename   Mary
Bride Surname   TOOTHAKER

In Cornelius's will there is a cousin Timothy Sims

London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925
Name:    Timothy Sims
Residence County:    Leicester
Admission Date:    3 Jan 1745
Master's Name:    Thomas Howitt....Haberdasher
Father's name:    Joseph Sims

but I can't make out where in Leicester Joseph is from

and also found

Benjamin Sims
Admission Date:    1713-1714
Father's name:    Timotheo Sims

shame this is so late

England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
Timothy Sims
Probate Date:    30 Sep 1853
Residence:    Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire, England

Just gone back to Northants marriages, there's a place called Howthorpe, wonder if that is what is written on the papers for where Joseph is from

[Aussie67]

Hi Annie,

I have just spent most of this afternoon trying to sort out the family tree of our ancestors in Leicestershire.

Below is what I would everyone to look at and make any suggestions or alterations. I will add some comments when I've had my afternoon break.


1 Mr Lole

...2 William Lole b: Abt. 1697, d: 20 Mar 1765 in Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire

+   Mary Roper m: 24 Oct 1730 in Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire d: 16 Jul 1770 in Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire

...2 Joses Lole b: Abt. 1710 in Leicestershire, d: Abt. 1790 in Laughton, Leicestershire

+ Mary d: 1774 in Laughton, Leicestershire

......3 Mary Lole b: Abt. 1744, d: Bef. 1790

+   Thomas Robinson b: Abt. 1744, m: 23 Nov 1766 in Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire

.........4 Ann Robinson b: Abt. 1767 in Leicstershire

......3 Sarah Lole b: Abt. 1745 in Leicstershire, England, d: 1815 in Walgrave, Northamptonshire,

+   John Gibson b: Abt. 1744 in Rothwell, Northamptonshire, m: 25 Sep 1767 in Walgrave, Northamptonshire, , England, d: 1818 in Walgrave, Northamptonshire
......3 Daniel Lole b: Abt. 1754 in Laughton, Leicestershire Baptism: 14 Oct 1754 in Laughton, Leicestershire

......3 Elizabeth Lole b: Abt. 1756 in Laughton, Leicestershire Baptism: 18 Apr 1756 in Laughton, Leicestershire

+ Edward Carter

......3 Alice Lole b: Abt. 1758 in Laughton, Leicestershire, d: Bef. 1790, Baptism: 19 Jul 1758 in Laughton, Leicestershire

......3 Joseph Lole b: Abt. 1760 in Laughton, Leicestershire Baptism: 13 Apr 1760 in Laughton, Leicestershire

+ Mary Bunney m: 22 Jan 1787 in Aylestone, Leicestershire

......3 James Lole b: Abt. 1762 in Laughton, Leicestershire, d: Bef. 1790, Baptism: 01 Jul 1762 in Laughton, Leicestershire

......3 Ann Lole b: Abt. 1765 in Laughton, Leicestershire Baptism: Jun 1765 in Laughton, Leicestershire

+   William Beal m: 08 Aug 1784 in Kibworth Beauchamp, Leicestershire, Also Known As: William Bale

......3 Hannah Lole b: Abt. 1766 in Laughton, Leicestershire Baptism: 19 Oct 1766 in Laughton, Leicestershire

+ Thomas Swingler

...2 Cornelius Lole b: Abt. 1720, d: 1780, Sex: Male
+ Ann Williams m: 02 Jun 1760 in St James Clerkenwell