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Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« on: Tuesday 30 October 12 20:59 GMT (UK) »
HiYall

i will try and keep this short - I just spent ages trying to explain everything - then my internet reception failed   :-[ as I was posting, and I lost it all  >:(

i will try again-

Edwin Whitworth Crabtree married Mabel Amelia Alcock 1904 Bemboka, Bega NSW children on the NSW register pre 1911 are
Harriett M G
James E
Aubrey W
Eunice L

When Edwin died in 1935 his obit states: CRABTREE, September 14, 1935, at Berowra, Edwin Whitworth, beloved husband of Mabel Amelia and beloved father of Jonas, Aubrey, Grace (deceased), Eunice, Edna, Roy

So - Edna and Roy probably born after 1911

Their mother's death notice in 1963, Sydney states - mother of Jonas, Aubrey, Eunice (Mrs Irvine) and Edna.

Apart from Aubrey (who died in Qld 1982 and married NSW 1950) I am having trouble tracking the others down  ::)

My theory is that Harriett M G is GRACE - I have two fellow historians that tell me differing tales 1. that her name was changed to Hilda Thompson and she died in an asylum in Sydney 1959 or There is also the story that Grace A Crabtree died in Canada in 1949 under the name of Grace A McMillan. 2. That GRACE died as an infant 1910 Tasmania but that Harriet is a seprate person - no further info.
I am dismissing No1 because on their father's death in 1935 she is listed as deceased  :-\
The second one I cant prove so if anyone has access to Tasmanian deaths circa 1910 I would be grateful for a look up.

I am taking that James E on the birth index is JONAS ? but cant find any other info
EUNICE married Who? Irvine
Edna I take it was unmarried (or was in 1963 anyhow)
Roy - mentioned in 1935 but not in 1963 ?

All help gratefully appreciated  ;)
Cheers
Jan  :-*
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 12 21:18 GMT (UK) »
UPDATE (sometimes I doubt myself)  :P

I found an Obit for Eunice Louise Irvine - SMH; 24 Feb 1987 - Wife of the Late John, Mother of **** and ***** grandmother of ****.

So she married JOHN IRVINE. Another peice slots in  :D
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Jan :-*
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TIVEY, WILDE,
Alker, Barmore, Birchall, Bird, Bryan, Chant, Clare,  Crump, Dow, Edwards, Fairbrother, Faulkner, Frearson, Frogson, Glew, Halliday, Heathcote, Hesford, Holliday, Jones, Knight, Massey, Mather, McKenna, Mee, Melling, Neal, O'Brien, Ottewell, Pimblett, Pinks, Price, Quinn, Rampling, Richards, Richardson, Rowley, Royle, Shakespeare, Shaw, Sheldon, Tandy, Thompson, Wade, Walker,  & more!

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 12 22:25 GMT (UK) »
NSW birth-

CRABTREE, EDNA E.
Parents
Edwin W.
Mabel A. 1912
Bemboka
39833

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 00:35 GMT (UK) »
2. That GRACE died as an infant 1910 Tasmania

I can only see one Grace CRABTREE who died in Tasmania in 1910 and she was not an infant.

Her death notice:

DEATHS.

CRABTREE - On December 25, 1910, at Vermont, Constitution Hill, Grace, beloved wife of the late Henry Crabtree, aged 36.

Funeral will leave her late residence for Kempton, 2 o'clock Wednesday (This Day). Friends respectfully invited.

Debra  :)


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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Jonas Edwin CRABTREE appears alone on Electoral Rolls as a labourer around Nimmitabel up until 1968.

Debra  :)

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 00:52 GMT (UK) »
NSW ER 1903 EDEN-MONARO …. Polling at Bemboka

ALL with surname ALCOCK
Albert Arthur, farmer at Sam’s Corner
Algernon Sebastian, farmer, Bemboka
Alice Maude, dd, Bemboka
Elizabeth, dd, Bemboka
Emily Rose, Nobby Park, dd
Eveline Jane, Nobby Park dd
Frederick Adolphus, farmer, Bemboka
Ivan Zekiah, labourer, Bemboka
Jonas, Nobby Park, farmer
Louisa Ann, Nobby Park, dd
Mabel Amelia, Nobby Park, dd
Mary Victoria, Bemboka, dd
Sarah, Bemboka, dd
Sarah, Sam’s Corner, dd
Beatrice,  Bemboka, dd

NONE at that polling place with surname CRABTREE

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 01:15 GMT (UK) »
1936/1937/1943, Berowra

CRABTREE

Edna Emily Rose, Dressmaker
Eunice Louise, Stenographer
Mabel Amelia, Home Duties

1933 shows only Mabel and Eunice, 1949/1954/1958 shows Mabel and Edna.

Edna was still living and unmarried in 1980.

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 01:28 GMT (UK) »
From the local gossip column:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18105412

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Re: Birth & Death Look Up Possibly Tasmania & NSW
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 October 12 01:33 GMT (UK) »
There is a Roy Crabtree born 4 July 1924 at Paddington, NSW with next of kin Eunice Crabtree on the WWII Nominal Roll (http://www.ww2roll.gov.au).

The names are too similar to completely ignore.

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