1883 Shipwreck

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The Nebo sailed from Sunderland 2/3 April 1883 with a crew of 26 for Bombay.

On 7 May 1883 the Dundee Courier, under the headline "An Overdue Sunderland Steamer" published a crew list. The last named was a "C. M'Nicol, Edinburgh"- a fireman.

A Board of Trade Enquiry was held in Newcastle on 4 July 1883 into the disappearance of the Nebo and "....They could only suppose that she must have been lost from some of the other accidents at sea, from her having met with some other collision, or having gone ashore where no trace of her could be found".

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The Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette 30 June 1884
THE LOSS OF THE NEBO S, OF SUNDERLAND/i]
A few weeks ago we reported the loss of the fine new screw steamer Nebo (owned by Messrs Pinkney and Sons, of this town) by striking a shoal near Natal, South Africa, while on her first voyage from Sunderland to Natal.

(Note - Pinkney and Sons were the owners of the Nebo that disappeared April/May 1883 referred to previously)

[abrach1]

Hi
thanks for the info you have sent.
So - there were two ships called Nebo - yes?
The one that went missing in 1883 and the other one in 1884. The one in 1883 being the one that Charles MacNicol was on.

[3sillydogs]

Yep there were indeed two ships, one in 1883 lost before reaching the Suez on route to Bombay,  all hands lost, that one seems to be the one you are after and the other in 1884 on the Aliwal Shoals, no hands lost.

Strange that two ships would have the same name originating from the same area, but am I right in assuming they were both owned by the same people??

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Sunderland Daily Echo & Shipping Gazette, 4 Feb 1884
"There was launched from the yard of James Laing, Deptford, Sunderland on the 29th ult, a steamer built to the order of Messrs D G Pinkney and Sons.................
The christening of the vessel was very gracefully performed by Miss Pinkney, daughter of the senior partner, who named her the Nebo........................................"

The owners of the Nebo that disappeared April 1883 were Pinkney and Sons.

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THE TIMES, 25 Dec 1883
Wear Shipbuilding in 1883
".................................. Mr James Laing, of Deptford, Sunderland has during the year launched 9 vessels with a gross tonnage of 22,877 tons. Among the vessels sent out by him was the Nebo, a fine screw steamer, built to the order of Messrs Pinkney and Sons, of Sunderland which was lost with all hands only a few months after she was launched.................................."

An ill fated name

[3sillydogs]

Found this in the Watertown Times 26 Aug 1892

SHIP OWNERS IN TROUBLE.
LONDON, Aug. 22.—D. G. Pinkney &
Sons, ship owners, of Sunderland, have called a meeting of their creditors for Wednesday next to discuss private affairs. The directors of the Pinkney Sons' steamship Co., whose affairs are not affected by those of the private firm, have placed the management of the company and Its vessels in the hands of W. & T. W. Pinkney, of the Neptune Steam Navigation company. Much gossip is current concerning other shipping firms.
Anderson, Anderson ± Co.. ship and insurance brokers, of this city, have settled
all open accounts to stop gossip.

[abrach1]

Thanks for all that information - you have answered my questions about the (two) ships named Nebo and what happened to them.
Much appreciated
abrach1

[Geordie daughter]

I'm hijacking this post really, but I just wanted to say thanks to 3sillydogs for the post containing the very illuminating newspaper clipping re the financial affairs of the Pinkneys. I've just discovered that one of my Swinhoes (James) was shipping clerk and later, secretary, for the Neptune Steam Navigation Company Limited which was re-registered in that name in 1891. It seems management of the N.S.N.C was jointly transferred to James and a Mr F.W. Bolam in 1903, due to the death of one Pinkney (T.W.) and ill-health of another, so I am now trying to unravel the story. It looks very much to me as if, when one of the Pinkney family's shipping businesses got into trouble, they transferred assets and re-registered as a new business: the N.S.N.C in its turn began to struggle around 1901 or so, and was in part bought out by Furness Withy in 1906, although the remainder seems to have limped on until 1910 under Bolam and Swinhoe.