My Gt Grandmother doest exist until she's 28!

[bobo66]

Please can anyone point out where I am going wrong.
I have been trying to trace my Gt Grandmother born EMMA NEALE in Brimington in 1863. She married George Leader, and then went on to marry Willian Rice. I know from her Marriage to George Leader that her fathers name was James Neale, but all my searches back never show a James Neale with a daughter named Emma! I do know tha she remaned in Brimington all of her life, until she died in October 1959.

Really appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

Derek

[danuslave]

Hi Derek

You actually only know that she said her fathers name was James Neale!   

There are many instances (including one in my own family) of illegitimate people 'inventing' a father to put on a marriage certificate

Do you have the names of the witnesses, who may have been related?  Any clues in subsequent censuses?

If you tell us what you have already found, we might be able to help

Linda

[crisane]

Possible in 1881. Age out by 2 years but that is nothing
RG11 piece 3438 folio 3; page 12
Furnace lane Wheatbridge House Brampton
William B. Robinson 55 paper Box manufacturer belper
Martha A. Robinson 29 Hasland
Mary S. Robinson    25 brampton
Elizabeth Robinson 23Brampton
Maria Robinson 21 Brampton
William Bradbury Robinson 18 Brampton
Hannah L. Robinson 17
Emma Neal    20 servant/housemaid Brimington Derbyshire

[oldtimer]

Hi Derek

Do you have her birth certificate or baptism record? I can't find an Emma Neale in the GRO Index for that year, or for 5 years either side.

There is an Elizabeth Neale, born 1863 in Brimington, daughter of a James, on the 1871 census. Is there any chance that she changed her name  I know it sounds like a long shot, but it is a possibility.

[danuslave]

Now I'm confused!

1891  -  RG12/2764/11/15

Wm Leader    28
Emma Leader    28  b 1863 Brimington
George Leader    7   b 1884 Brimington  (mistranscription - original image says George Neale)
Ada Leader    2
Alice Leader    7/12
   

[crisane]

Births Sep 1/4 1862   
Emma Neal Tamworth 6b/327

[danuslave]

Hi Derek

Do you have her birth certificate or baptism record? I can't find an Emma Neale in the GRO Index for that year, or for 5 years either side.

There is an Elizabeth Neale, born 1863 in Brimington, daughter of a James, on the 1871 census. Is there any chance that she changed her name  I know it sounds like a long shot, but it is a possibility.

Possibly not!

1891  -  RG12/2817/128/7

Lizzie Neale  Serv  28  S  Cook domestic  Brimington

[crisane]

Marriages Jun 1/4 1888  

William Leader        
Emma Neale
Chesterfield vol 7b page 988     

[oldtimer]

The one born in Tamworth has Caleb as her father!

thanks Linda!