George Boyd (C. 1779ish)

[rodersboyd]

Mark,
 Here is the main part of what I have,in reverse order.
Abreviations are Tan= Tanfield parish records ch/m/B,
 papists = Info from the papist returns (catholics) in Diocese of Durham 1767.
    ...?  means I have the reference but not just to hand.
 I will try and put the direct line in CAPITALS.

WILLIAM BOYD born 1697 (catholic),occupation Tailor,abode Tanfield. papists
His first wife Isabel buried  25/8/1761. Tan/B.
His 2nd wife was Isabel Forster married 26/6/1762 Tan/m.
She was born in 1709 and was also a catholic. papists
Williams children were
Thomas (Boyes) 14/9/1725 Tan/ch
John (Boyes) 13/11/1726 Tan/ch
William (Boys) 20/10/1729 Tan/ch
This william died 25/2/1732 or 33(my bad writting). Tan/B.
Joseph (Boys) 20/4/1731 Tan/ch.
William (Boys) (2nd one,to carry the name forward) 31/12/1733 Tan/ch
Mary (Boys) 29/9/1735 Tan/ch.
Mary (Boyd) married Thomas Tinkler 2/10/1758 Tan/m.
They had a daughter Anne Tinkler 24/10/1759 Tan/ch 
*Note Anne Tinkler was a sponser of christening at pontop (see post by Wolfie).
GEORGE (BOYSE) 18/11/1739 Tan/ch.
This birth is backed up by the Papists which gives him as aged 28 in 1767,occupation Tailor.
GEORGE BOYD's 1st wife was Elizabeth (also catholic) Papists
 Plus 8/11/1771 burial of Elizabeth (Boys) Wife of GEORGE (BOYS) Tan/B.
There children were
John Boyd 15/8/1761 Tan/ch
William Boyd 8/10/1763 Tan/ch
These 2 were entered as  sons of George Boyd,Birth dates of a dissenters child entered at the request of its parents.
They are also in the papists along with a sister Mary aged 2.
GEORGE BOYD married his 2nd wife Mary Harrison aca  Mary Cowtrip in 1778
about a year before their first child George was christened at Pontop.
 There are other bits of info which help tie it all together but this has taken longer than I thought so will sign off for now and post again tommorow.
                Rod.
 
     
 

[rodersboyd]

Alan,
Some other info in no particular order.
Non catholics were not allowed to marry in a catholic church prior to 'Vatican 2'in the 1960's.
Catholics were not permitted to have their own graveyards and had to use Anglican ones.
eg    pontop funeral services.(extreme unctione)
       7/3/1785 William Bois,son of George Bois (note this would be from his first marriage and hence why he called his next son born in 1786 William.

        9/4/1787 Joseph Boyd (Causey)Tanfield

Both burials recorded in Tan/B as well.
William Boys ...? 1785 and Joseph Boys ...? 1787.
     
With regards to Tan ch/m/B and the name variations of Boyd,Boys,Boyes,they seem to be in small clusters.This could be explained by changes in parish priests which would occur over the years.
 I have been unable to account for the name Cowtrip also spelt Cowbrigs and Cortondon on the christenings at pontop.
There seems to be no such family in Tan ch/m/B or a marriage of one to a Harrison.Maybe its even a variation of Copeland whish my Joseph carried forward.
The nearest name I have been able to come up with is a family called Coultrip or Coliltrip (Ann,Thomas,William) but no mary.
Maybe it was just the priest at Pontop who after spending 6 years training at Douai in France was simply unfamiliar with the pronunciation and spelling of the name.
The same problem seems to apply to the other brother Joseph.
He married Isabel Brown 19/10/1772 Tan/m
At Pontop christenings his wife is given as Elizabeth Murray or Isabel Murray
(Isabel being the Spanish version of Elizabeth).
On searching Tan ch/m/B there are no familias of Murray in the parish at this time.The nearest I found which was interesting was called Morron.
Thomas Brown married Isabel Morron 1765 Tan/m
they lived at the same place in Tanfield as the Boyd's ie Causey.
Thomas brown diedin 1771 Tan/B.
This was one year before Joseph married a Isabel Brown (later reffered to as Murray).Maybe just coincidence?
 Finally if you search on google,you shoud find the following pictures.
On the old Tanfield railway at Causey there is 'Boyds crossing'
Its a footpath over the railway and Causey dyke up past a derelict farm house
known as "old Boyd's farm" aka Bankwell house.
As well as photo's there is a painting of the house in the snow and some photo's of steam trains going by.
              Rod... 
 
 
         

[Bodi]

Thanks for all this Rod, this is a great help.

I managed to find a Mary Coutrip in Familysearch born in 1743 in Lincolnshire. That is the only one I could find her father was called John. This may be a variation of the spelling of Cowtrip

[Bodi]

Is there anyway that I can confirm that the burial I have for George Boyd in 1836 is actually my 4x great grandfather. I know civil registration did not occur until July 1837. I have found a tailors in Pilgrim Street in 1834 which according to the burial record is where he died in 1836. This record is the right age and occupation for him. He was buried at Ballast Hills Burial Ground in Newcastle upon Tyne

Here's hoping



Mark Boyd

[rodersboyd]

Mark,
have a look at this on the A2A (access to archives) website for full information.

The incorporated Company of Tailors Newcastle upon Tyne
extract
Administrative history:
The Tailors Company was embodied by its first Ordinary on 8 October 1536. This document laid down regulations for company members with penalties if these were infringed. It also embodied the administrative structure of the Company with its 12 electors, and 4 stewards, 2 searchers and 2 auditors. New ordinaries were created in 1624, 1707, 1731 and 1737.
The Tailors Company originally met in the old Dominican monastery at Blackfriars. In 1561 the Company purchased land between Manor Chare and Pilgrim Street to build a new Tailors Hall. This building was in use until 1788 when the old Tailors Hall at Blackfriars was rebuilt. The property in Manor Chare was sold in 1832.
The Tailors Company still exists in Newcastle today and some of its members are descendents of the original founding group.
            Rod

[Bodi]

Thanks Rod

I will look at this and see if I can find anything as I am in T&W archives next week.


Meanwhile do you know of anything of my Lumsden side of the family as I believe they were from Penshaw but all I can find for a Thomas is a marriage for a Thomas Lumsley in 1777.


Many Thanks


Mark Boyd

[rodersboyd]

Mark,
         Let us know if you find anything next week.
I havn't really looked for your Lumsden line in the past,with it not being on my direct line but will have a neb and let you know if I find anything that might be of interest to you.
     Rod 

[2zpool]

Three children baptised in Penshaw to a Thomas and Elizabeth Lumsdon/Lumsley:

John Lumsdon baptised 17 Sep 1780 of Biddick
Robert Lumsdon baptised 14 Sep 1783 of Biddick, buried 19 Feb 1786, still living Biddick
Jane Lumsley baptised 31 May 1778 of Burnt? Moor [probably Burnmoor]

baptismal records of Penshaw start at 1754

I own a copy of the Penshaw parish records.

In the early 1800's there was a Lumsley couple having children.  They were James and Margaret Lumsley

Janis

[Bodi]

Janis

Thanks for this. I know that George in 1779 and Jane (Lumsdon, Lumsden, Lumsley) married in Newcastle in 1804. She was down as Jane d. of Thomas Lumsdon for the baptisms of Thomas in 1806, Mary in 1808 & John in 1811. These were all baptised at All Saints in Newcastle upon Tyne. I was just wondering if she was CofE and whether Lumsley could be mistaken as a variation of Lumsdon/Lumsden


Many Thanks



Mark Boyd


Rod.

Would you like me to send you what research that I have so that you can see your extended family. We span three different countries.