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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 November 12 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your research. I saw the J. Dolby article and further she is mentioned by name as Jane, so it's not a missprint. Im thinking he had children with Jane and Sarah?? The age of the children match Sarah's children. I thought also that maybe she had used a different name to claim rations. I guess I will never know these details. She was only 15 or 16 when she had the first child in 1843, also named Sarah.

This is why I am trying to find her parents and siblings to see if there is a Jane. Also, the name of her father so I can research him on trove to find out what his life was like, why Sarah had children with him at such a young age.

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #19 on: Friday 16 November 12 13:25 GMT (UK) »
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The age of the children match Sarah's children.
For what it's worth, I think that Sarah and Jane are the one and same person.  Perhaps her name was Sarah Jane.

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I believe she was born in Threadneedle, London in abt. 1827
What is the source of this info and why do you believe she was born in England?

I really don't hold out much hope for you finding anythng about Sarah/Jane DOLBY.  It wasn't unusual for girls of 15/16 to emigrate however I see no DOLBY or DALBY however not all ships manifests survive.
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html

Assisted immigration to the colony of South Australia commenced in 1847 so bit pointless searching those records.

Perhaps she was from Tasmania as Edward was back and forth from SA quite frequently when he was horse trading.  He sounds a bit of a cad to me.   

Perhaps another chatter may find something for you.

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #20 on: Friday 16 November 12 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Baptism:

Sarah Anne Dolby EMMETT
Date: 04 Jun 1846
Place: Holy Trinity Church, Church of England, Adelaide, South Australia.
Father's name: George Emmett
Mother's name: Sarah Dolby
Reference number: Volume 2; Page 90

Copies of these records are held at the SLSA:
http://guides.slsa.sa.gov.au/church_records
http://lgdata.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/docs/776/358076/Church_records.pdf

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 17 November 12 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Mmmm.  Wonder who gave the minister the details ::) 

There are so few EMMETT's in SA in that period.  Search TROVE and trawl the bdm's. 

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2 Dec 1856
Two rations continued.     J. Dolby, single woman, three children by Mr.Emmett, 11, nine, and five years of age, all at home; never received any intelligence of Mr. Emmett.

So the three children of the approximate ages are...

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Sarah Anne Dolby EMMETT
Date: 04 Jun 1846
Place: Holy Trinity Church, Church of England, Adelaide, South Australia.
Father's name: George Emmett
Mother's name: Sarah Dolby
Reference number: Volume 2; Page 90
Merlin

There are only three female EMMETT marriages in SA to 1916.

Marriage - only marriage for a Sarah Ann in SA
DUNK John Palmer  26 years  Status not recorded  Father Thomas DUNK
EMMETT Sarah Ann 24 years  Status not recorded  Father Edward EMMETT
27 Feb 1868
At Trinity Church, Adelaide  Ade 74/297

South Australian Register  Fri 6 Mar 1868 -
Marriages
DUNK—EMMETT
.—On the 27th February, at Trinity Church, by the Very Rev. Dean Farrell, John Palmer, second son of Mr. Thomas Dunk, of Gilles-street Adelaide, to Sarah Ann Emmett, of Grenfell-street, Adelaide.

Her death registration has her birth c1844
DUNK Sarah Anne  37 years  Status Married  Relative John DUNK [Husband]
7 Dec 1881    
Residence Kent Town   Death place Kent Town   Ade 82/115

The South Australian Register  Fri 9 Dec 1881
DEATHS.
DUNK. -On the 7th December, at Bridge-street, Kensington, Sarah Ann, the beloved wife of J. P. Dunk, aged 38 years.

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EMETT Mary Dolby
26 Oct 1847
Father Edward EMETT  Mother Sarah DOLBY
Birth Place not recorded  Ade 2/24
Cando

Marriage
POTTER Henry 23 years  Status not recorded  Father James POTTER
EMMETT Mary 19 years  Status not recorded  Father Edward EMMETT
6 Dec 1866
At St John Church [unrecorded]   Ade Symbol A* 69/56
A* Amended Entry. The Purchased Certificate will differ slightly re clerical information
·   Deduction of a Registration District
·   Deduction of a year where a new year date confusion was detected.

The South Australian Register Thursday 27 Dec 1866
Marriages
POTTER-EMMETT
.-On the 6th December, at St. John's Church, by the Rev. D. J. H. lbbetson, Henry Potter, to Mary Dolby Emmett both of Adelaide.

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Birth - which could well be your Edward
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Edward DOLBY b. 18 May 1851 Adelaide
Parents: Edward DOLBY & Sarah BRITTON
Ade/Book 3/Page 221
Rhonda

Marriage in Victoria - this certificate would give you his age and previous marriages, if any.
EMMETT Edward Nucella born Adelaide
CLUGSTON Minnie born Heidelberg
1894  Reg#3237

However there is this birth in South Australia and there doesn't appear to be a marriage.
EMMETT Edward Nucella
16 Aug 1881
Father Edward EMMETT  Mother Mary Anne YOUNG
At Adelaide   Ade 267/176

and Edward Nucella's death in Victoria with parental details probably taken from the marriage certificate.

EMMETT Edward Nucella
Father Emmett Edward Nucella  Mother Sarah DALBY
At Richmond 59 years  1911  Reg#2936

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Ages on death certificates are not always accurate.  Perhaps this is Sarah arriving from Tasmania.  Edward travelled frequently between Adelaide and Tasmania.  You will find his arrivals and departures on TROVE.

South Australian Register  Sat 5 Nov 1840
Wednesday, 3—The barque Lady Emma, 135 tons, Captain Thomas Buckland, from Launceston, having left that place on the 25th August. Passengers: Mrs Buckland and Mrs Emmett

Sarah Ann EMMETT died at her daughter's home in Parkside

The Advertiser Thursday 9 Nov 1899
THE FRIENDS of the late Mrs. SARAH ANN EMMETT are respectfully informed that her Funeral will leave the residence of her Daughter (Mrs. H. Potter, Oxford-terrace, New Parkside, THIS DAY, at 10 a.m., for the West-terrace Cemetery. R. T. WALLMANN & SONS. Undertakers

EMMETT Sarah Ann
8 Nov 1899  72 years  Status Widow  Relative Edward Newseller EMMETT [Deceased Husband]
Residence New Parkside  Death Place New Parkside  Ade 265/278
 

Sarah is buried at West Terrace Cemetery with a Henry POTTER who died in 1908. The ACA database shows the dates of burial as dates of death.

EMMETT  Sarah Ann   72 years  Last abode New Parkside, SA
Date of Death 09 November 1899
Section Road 1 North  Path Number 1  Site#11

You probably have all this information but the extra information often helps others who are helping with your request.

Cheers
Cando
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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 17 November 12 00:41 GMT (UK) »
Oh my goodness....trees galore on the net...and much of the research appears copied :-X :-X.

Edward's father also had financial troubles in Tasmania.
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/emmett-henry-james-2025

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 17 November 12 06:07 GMT (UK) »
Great summary, Cando.

I'm also wondering what the evidence is for Sarah Dolby's birthplace and date.  This may be an enormous red herring and I'm in two minds whether to put it up  :-\ but the Tasmanian Colonial Family Links has a Sarah Jane DOLBEY born to a Sarah DOLBEY in 1838, father listed as John DOLBEY.  Sarah Jane DOLBEY b 1838 marries George MCNEAIR in Tasmania in 1857. 

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

I am not experienced in Tasmanian research and there seems to be little further information about either of the parents but it seems to me to be possible that your Sarah DOLBY was older than was recorded at her death.  This Sarah DOLBEY may have been as young as 14 when her daughter was born in 1838, so a birthdate of 1824 or earlier would fit this woman. (75 or older in 1899).

Perhaps she met Mr Emmett after the birth of this child and went to South Australia as Mrs Emmett with him in 1840.   ???

A tenuous suggestion at best  :-\

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 00:57 GMT (UK) »
The Destitute Board describes her as arriving on the 'Java'

Admissions To The Destitute Asylum. For Relief; Sarah Dolby and 3 children. Ages; her 29 1 child under 7, 2 children over 7. She arrived on the ship "JAVA". Father of the children is EMMETT and he is away. -- Ref GRG: 28/4, 6-12-1855
Green, Collins, Cavanagh, Carn or Carne, Gillett, Davis, Symons, Foord, Hart, Knight. McLachlane

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 01:12 GMT (UK) »
her headstone at West Terrace Cemetery, Adelaide
Green, Collins, Cavanagh, Carn or Carne, Gillett, Davis, Symons, Foord, Hart, Knight. McLachlane

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Re: Sarah Ann Dolby
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 18 December 12 01:37 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Jane Dolbey of Tasmania is not the same person, see http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=97147
Green, Collins, Cavanagh, Carn or Carne, Gillett, Davis, Symons, Foord, Hart, Knight. McLachlane