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william owen pilkinton
« on: Wednesday 21 November 12 03:45 GMT (UK) »
Will.O. Pilkinton was born 1843/4 in Gravesend, Kent son of John P. and Sarah (nee Biggs).  He is the youngest brother of my g.g.grandmother, Sarah Blandford (nee Pilkinton).  My problem is this- he appear on 1851 and 1861 census living with parents, and then disappears. Yesterday, quite by accident I found him on 1911 census as Pilkington.  There are no other William Owen's, so this must be him. I think I have also found him on 1891- but just as William Pilkington.  This family has lost so many of its children. Did he emigrate, and then return, or what happened to him??  Because Sarah appears to have been an inmate of Leavesden from 1869 until 1917 I am trying to find any descendants of her siblings who may be able to shed some light on her fate.  You have helped me before, so here's hoping someone can do so again.
Cheers, June
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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 04:21 GMT (UK) »
Here's his birth registration

March 1/4 1844 
 William Owen Pilkinton  Gravesend  vol 5 page 199

So the 1911 census entry you found looks good and so does the 1891 because the occupation is the same.
No birthplace given for his wife Emma age 37 in 1891. Bah!

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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 04:30 GMT (UK) »
And I think this is his death registration

December quarter 1924 Hendon Volume 3a p358
William O Pilkington age 80

In the 1911 census he says he is a widower but I can't find a marriage yet.
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 04:48 GMT (UK) »
How about this? Occupation good but birth place out. Did the enumerator mix up Emma and William's birth places?


1881 RG11 piece 2572 folio 28 page 50

Malthouse Lane Garden cottage Cheltenham Gloucestershire

William Pilkington 28 Mineral water worker Pimlico London
 Emma Pilkington 26 Cheltenham Gloucestershire

William's age out but as he is a good bit older than Emma in 1891 he may have dropped some years?
Still no marriage.


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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 05:42 GMT (UK) »
I like the 1881 information. He was probably asked "where are you from?" not "where were you born?" and answered with the place he was living at prior to being in Gloucestershire.

I tried looking for the death of Emma too but couldn't find that either.
Richardson, Sherman, Gillam, Hitchcock, Neighbour, Groom, Walton, Strange, Littleford, Brown, Guy, Abbs, Tasker, Bartlett, Farey, Etteridge

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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 06:33 GMT (UK) »
William Owen Pilkington baptised 10th jan 1844 St George church,Gravesend,Kent -  John /Sarah parents

I can`t find a marriage either...I think Emma may have been a nickname ??   
found 2 Eliza ...but no Emma to William Pilkington

allan
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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone, Thanks, you've done it again.  I, too, like the 1881- it is a fairly obscure occupation, so likely to be the same man. Can't find a marriage, either.  I did have the death, also can't find a death for Emma??
Looks like they may not have had children.
Cheers, June
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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 08:36 GMT (UK) »
I wonder did they ever marry in England ...?   could they have married in USA ??

Charles Pilkington born 1878  England  - mother Emma E Wain ...

Charles Pilkington b 1880 - parents  Emma E Pilkington
1910 census
abode Lowell Ward 9 ,Middlesex ,Massachusetts ,USA

so ...maybe the census had his age out by 2 years.....by any chance have you come across the surname WAIN in your research ?

this child Charles Pilkington b 1878 England mother Emma E Wain...let`s see if we can find his birth and also Emma E Wain birth...and see where they were born ?
what do you think ?
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Re: william owen pilkinton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 November 12 08:39 GMT (UK) »
In 1920 Charles Pilkington is in Providence ,Rhode Island .....mother Emma E Wain ...

sep qtr 1860  Emma Elizabeth Wain    Dartford  2a 56

and...Dartford where Emma was born - Gravesend where William Owen Pilkington was born ...both in Kent and quite close to each other ....food for thought ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford