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James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« on: Wednesday 05 December 12 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
Just wondering if anyone can help with any info on James MONK born Alveley, nr bridgnorth in 1845.

I have found him in the 1861 census employed as a apprentice blacksmith in Madeley... but after that he seems to dissappear  :-\  ..so any help or advise would be much appreciated  :) :)

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Re: James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 12:07 GMT (UK) »
In the 1861 censu in Madeley - who is he with ?? is he with a Caroline as mother ?
Was he christened 6th april 1845- mother Caroline Monk ?
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Re: James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 14:39 GMT (UK) »
yes, he was christened on that date :)

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hiya ...Do you know whether Caroline Monk , his mother ever married ?....if so ...what was her married name , and have you looked for her in 1871 / 1881 census ....
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Do you know whether the Caroline Monk born 1824 Alveley is the mother of James Monk ?....if so , on familysearch it states she died 23rd august 1895 in Alveley...if this is her ...she should be on 1881 census aged 56/57 ...
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ADDED...IN 1891 she is 66 and living with her sister in law ( brothers wife ? )

 ...1881 census
Pothers Load Wood Cottage
Alveley
Shropshire

Robert Monk aged 82 born Kinlet,Shrops
Mary Monk wife aged 75 born Arley ,Staffordshire
CAROLINE MONK dau aged 55 born Stottesdon ,Shrops   the ONLY Caroline Monk age wise I can find ...so ...was she born in Alveley or Stottesdon ?...are they close to each other ?...I have never heard of Stottesdon ...googling it now ...being nosy

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 16:19 GMT (UK) »
4 miles away ...maybe with Alveley being a little more well known - Carolines parents on previous census returns gave Alveley instead of Stottesdon as her Town birth ??

but that doesn`t find James does it ...but at least we know 1871 and 1881 he wasn`t with his mother..
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Re: James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your help.
Yes, Caroline remains in Alveley, sadly I understand  she may have had a long term disabilty of some kind ?? 
It's her son James,that intrigues me,where ever I look I cant find him !

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Re: James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I think that this may be them on the 1841 Census

Martley Worcestershire, Union Workhouse, both born in county

Caroline Monk transcribed as Morck b 1823
James Monk b 1840

Are there any apprentice records that you could check for James

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Re: James Monk 1871 ?/1881 ?..any help would be much appreciated
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 21:51 GMT (UK) »
This is strange

Are there 2  James and Caroline Monk's or was he christened twice :-\

James Monk
Christened 29 March 1840 Shropshire
Mother Caroline

James Monk
Christened 6 April 1845 Shropshire
Mother Caroline

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich