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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 09 December 12 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Could be worth looking into Northern Ireland sources?

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Tuesday 24 September 1850 ,  Belfast News-Letter
Advertisements & Notices
James Anderson, artist, Belfast, to Margaret Rowan, only daughter of the late Wm. Waddell, Esq., writer, Glasgow ...

Monday 20 September 1852 ,  Belfast News-Letter
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Mr. James Anderson, a young artist of rising celebrity in this town, but about to emigrate to Australia ...

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 09 December 12 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic, Gali - thank you very much indeed.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #20 on: Monday 10 December 12 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Given the Belfast connection between the husband of Margaret Rowan Waddell and the artist detailed in the link (provided by rosball) as marrying Mrs M(a)cleod I've been looking into the possibility of these James Andersons being one in the same ... and of course I've found absolutely nothing concrete! 

Mrs M(a)cleod's maiden name was Julianna Mary Esner ... can't see any marriage in VIC or NSW between her and Anderson?   It looks as if she died in Mosman in 1908, death registered in the name of 'Julia Macleod'. 

A short biography of her son, William Macleod, explains that the relationship was not a happy one: 'Unhappily Anderson became a drunkard and the boy had a miserable childhood. At 12 years of age he obtained a position with a photographer, and he began studying at a school of arts where he won prizes. Five years later he was earning enough to be able to make a home for his mother'
 http://gutenberg.net.au/dictbiog/0-dict-biogMc.html

The NSW State Library has James Anderson (the 'husband' of Mrs M(a)cleod) passing away in 1877 ... but I can't tie this in with any deaths on the NSW BDM site or any hints on Trove either.  http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/search/simpleSearch.aspx?authority=creatorauthorartist&ID=109708

So still no further sadly!

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #21 on: Monday 10 December 12 11:21 GMT (UK) »

Index to Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK, NZ and Foreign Ports 1852 - 1923
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=42
Passenger list of 'Chimborazo', leaving Melbourne Nov 1877 to London includes:

Anderson, Eliza, Miss, aged 21
Anderson, Margt, Mrs, aged 53
Richmond, William, aged 28

The ages look right I think? - so somewhere to start from?!


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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #22 on: Monday 10 December 12 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you again, Gali

That passenger list is very interesting. It does look very much like Elizabeth with her mother and her future husband. All three ages match exactly.

As Edith and Elizabeth were both born in Melbourne, and they embarked on the 'Chimborazo' in Melbourne, would it be reasonable to suppose that James died in VIC rather than NSW?

And James didn't actually marry Mrs M(a)cleod because he already had a wife?

Interestingly, Margaret died of an overdose of alcohol.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 December 12 20:55 GMT (UK) »
There look to be 63 deaths registered in the name of 'James Anderson' in VIC between 1856 and 1878!

Have you seen the 7 page Will and 3 page Inventory for Margaret Rowan Anderson on SP?

I wonder if this snippet might be worth investigating:
MR. JAMES ANDERSON, Artist, supposed to be in Sydney, New South Wales, is requested to communicate with Messrs. CLAYTON and ATKINSON, Solicitor, Melbourne, who has communications from his relative, Sir James Anderson, of Glasgow, requiring his immediate attention.
The Sydney Morning Herald, Thursday 1 September 1859

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #24 on: Monday 10 December 12 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Here's one Sir James Anderson http://atlantic-cable.com/CablePioneers/Anderson/index.htm - he must have been a contemporary of 'my' JA, artist

and another:  "James Anderson was the eldest son of John Anderson, the founder of Fermoy, by his second wife, Elizabeth, the only daughter of Mr James Semple, of Waterford. He was created a baronet on 22 March 1813, of Fermoy in the County of Cork, for the great public services rendered to Ireland by his father. Sir James was a celebrated experimentalist in steam-coaching, and took out various patents for his inventions. He lodged specifications in 1831 for "improvements in machinery for propelling vessels on water", in 1837 for "improvements in locomotive engines", and in 1846 for "certain improvements in obtaining motive power, and in applying it to propel carriages and vessels, and to the driving of machinery". He died in London 4 April 1861"

I've have seen the will now - would have found it earlier if it had come up in a search for Waddell. Basically she left her estate to her children Elizabeth and Arthur, who was in Brighton, VIC. So he remained in Australia after his mother and sister came back to Scotland.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #25 on: Monday 10 December 12 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Burial of an Arthur Waddell Anderson at Fawkner 26 July 1932 aged 71

http://www.heavenaddress.com/Arthur-Waddell--ANDERSON/204490/

Death reg says father Anderson  :(   at Burwood  Vic age 71 reg 8602

There is a marriage for Arthur Waddell Anderson and Grace Ellen Gellie in 1880 in vic reg 5038

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adding : do we know when Arthur was born?  Am I on the wrong track?

Here is the death notice which gives children and family (but not parents)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4464771
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #26 on: Monday 10 December 12 23:10 GMT (UK) »
A public tree on A/try says place of birth Inglewood, VIC c. 1861, apparently this from the marriage certificate?