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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #18 on: Friday 14 December 12 13:53 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD shows Mary D Armstrong born Newcastle Sep qtr 1920 mmn Willis.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 December 12 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Just seen baptism - at last this looks like her.
I wonder if Trevor and Reginald were born outside marriage, and John Armstrong, who she married in Neath in 1917 was her first husband, not her second!!

Thanks so much,

Sue

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 December 12 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Mary D Armstrong on Freebmd registered Sept quarter of 1920, mother's maiden name mistranscribed as 'Willis'

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 December 12 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Other baptisms from familysearch:

1892 (at Maesteg Chapelry, Llangynwyd): Edith Eleanor Williams, dau of Timothy (collier) and Elizabeth, of Cymmer
1897 (at Maesteg Chapelry, Llangynwyd): William Henry Williams aged 1, son of Timothy (collier) and Elizabeth, of Margam St, Cymmer
1898 (at Llangynwyd): Edward John Williams son of Timothy (collier) and Elizabeth, of Cymmer
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 December 12 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 December 12 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Well,that certainly looks like the same family then! As avm228 pointed out-the father must have used Timothy and Edward interchangeably. I wonder why John Williams is listed as "Father-in-law"?

Here's the 1901 I mentioned:
16 Margam Street Glyncorrwg Cymmer
WILLIAMS, Edward Coal Miner born Llanelly 1870
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth born Glyncorrwg 1872   
With children (all born Cymmer)
 Edith Eleanor   1893   
 Mary Eliz 1894   
 Wm Henry 1897   
 Ed John 1899   
WILLIAMS, John   Father-In-Law Coalminer born 1835 Gower

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 December 12 14:36 GMT (UK) »
I wonder why John Williams is listed as "Father-in-law"?


Perhaps this is an instance of the old-fashioned usage meaning "stepfather"?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #25 on: Friday 14 December 12 14:48 GMT (UK) »
I wonder why John Williams is listed as "Father-in-law"?


Perhaps this is an instance of the old-fashioned usage meaning "stepfather"?

Quite possibly! Wales is like a minefield for me! :)

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Re: Maiden Name Mystery
« Reply #26 on: Friday 14 December 12 16:08 GMT (UK) »
1891 census (Wales): RG12/4464/73/8

6 Maesteg Road, Cymmer


Edward WILLIAM (sic) Head Mar 21 Miner Coal miner Carmarthen Derry (?) Speaks English
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 20 Glamorgan Glyncorrwg Speaks both English & Welsh
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)