Pt 7 :-) Lesanne's Sc Hunt ...........

[toni*]

A Chancery Court is a court of equity that has existed since the 14thc It became the Chancery Division of the High Court of Justice in 1875 and still exists to this day. It seeks to balance the evidence and give a verdict on what it sees as just and fiar. It is thus a civil and not criminal court
TNA under C (for Chancery) 42 (for Early Proceedings 1386-1558) and the remainder after that dated under 42.
Check under all variant names – spelling issues
The early series is indexed by both name and subject, the more recent ones are not.
The earlier ones will be found in their entirety, the later series is less well organised but still includes a wealth of information. The problem is that the 3 parts of the case, pleading, evidence and decision will probably be filed n different parts of the collection. They are archived only by a short title which characteristically the name only of the first plaintiff and the first respondent. (Research guide 22 (TNA) has info. about the existing searchable indexes of later Chancery proceedings)
The Chancery Records are not currently included in the DocumentsOnline section , but use the Search the Catalouge facility.
If the name you enter comes up in the cat. search it will be part of a comprehensive description of the suit with names and location. This is a link so click on it for more detail. It is then up to you to decide if you want a copy if so click request this and it can be sent to you the same day in JPEG format for £8.50 (as per April 2008) or you can ask for a quotation to receive it by post.   The earlier records 1386-1558 are available on ancestry under British Chancery Records 1386-1558 however it only provides the name period and location by county and not the specific details of TNA but it does provide a specific reference.
The disputes may encourage us to look up the manorial records , copyhold records , witnesses deposition and bankruptcy records.

[toni*]

so your document is in 2 parts
the latter part being the outcome, but what is the other part the evidence or the pleading?
in any case fromthe info. i read youshould be able to order it as a JPEG image for £8.50

[Lesanne]

  £8.50 is a bit of a difference.... I'll take a look later... feeding time at zoo 

[toni*]

seems i have made a mistake which they are filed under t TNA C for Chancery is correct and 42 for the earleir ones however the latter ones will not be under 42 as well s will have to look up the ref. for that 

[Lesanne]

Hiya, no worries........ I have terrible trouble trying to work it all out...........

 That's a thing to remember before you go..... get everything you want to look up... all the reference numbers, 'cause when you get there you have to order everything on the puta by the ref no's........ and there are were very few people to help, last time I was there...........   and you can only get 3 doc's at a time...

[toni*]

£8.50 is a bit of a difference.... I'll take a look later... feeding time at zoo 

did you have another look?
£8.50 is the JPEg image (as of Apil 2008) theprice they quoted is for photocopying and sending it to you via snail mail
 

[Lesanne]

  I got stuck on reply 2 part 1    I had full intention of going through the whole lot today....   
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,276294.msg1601070.html#msg1601070

There's a Charles Williams as nephew to Frances Williams who marries Tom Turner, my Gt gt Gran........... Frances's Grand daughter is Ethel Norris, my granddad's sister get's a father in law, Charles Lloyd Williams.... is this the same chappy............   

I have a funeral card for Richard Williams died 6/8/1878 aged 77 in Berriew, Montgomery. Walter Williams is the name I have for Charles Lloyd Williams's father.

Anyway's did you have a good journey and did the party go well..... 

[toni*]

Re: Lesanne's Scavenger Hunt
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 08 10:16 GMT (UK) »   

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So this is the Turner family in Bray Berkshire in 1871.....

Thomas Turner 53 Head Gardener born Cox Green, Berkshire
Frances M Turner 36  Wife Berriew, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Sophia E Turner 13  Daur Stainmore, Middlesex, England
Mary S Turner 12 Daur born Stainmore, Middlesex, England
Lewis I Turner 5 Son born Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
Harriett E Turner 2  Daur born Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
Albert J Turner 1 Son born Maidenhead, Berkshire, England
Charles Williams 15 Nephew Ag Lab born Montgomershire, Berriew
Esther M Williams 12  Step Daur born Montgomershire, Fordon
Jane Williams 11 Step Daur born Montgomershire, Fordon

Frances William m. Thomas Turner
Frances William has a brother (or unmarried sister) who has a child Charles
Frances William has a daughter who marries Mr Norris and they have a child Ethel
who is your Grandad
Grandad f-i-l is Charles Lloyd Williams
is Charles Lloyd WIlliams the child of Frances Williams sibling?
Richard Williams died 06.08.1878 aged 77 thus born 1801 (ish)
Richard Williams died in Berriew
Where did Richard Williams originate ?
Where is Richard WIlliams in 1871 (and previous)
and the family above in 1881
What years aer we talking about re Charles Williams
do we have Charles (Lloyd) in the BMD index or the Census

[Lesanne]

Re: Lesanne's Scavenger Hunt
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 08 10:16 GMT (UK) »

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So this is the Turner family in Bray Berkshire in 1871.....

Charles Williams 15 Nephew Ag Lab born Montgomershire, Berriew

Frances Williams m. Thomas Turner
Frances Williams has a brother (or unmarried sister) who has a child Charles Williams c1856.
Frances  and Tom Turner have a daughter (Kate who marries Robert Norris) and they have a child Ethel G F Norris c1889.
Ethel is my Grandad's sister.
Ethel's f-i-l is 'Lloyd Charles' Williams (having married Ernest Walter Williams c1891 in 1914)
Is 'Charles Lloyd' WIlliams the child of Frances Williams sibling?
Richard Williams died 06.08.1878 aged 77 thus born 1801 (ish)
Richard Williams died in Berriew.
...................Added dates to above........

Where did Richard Williams originate ?
Where is Richard WIlliams in 1871 (and previous)
and the family above in 1881
What years are we talking about re Charles Williams
do we have Charles (Lloyd) in the BMD index or the Census

Walter Williams is Grandfather to Ernest Walter Williams

The questions you pose...  I spent most of yesterday tried to answer....