DIFFWYS TERRACE 1891 FFESTINIOG

[garethgriffiths]

Thanks Brevitas
I am begining to wonder if he is touring selling his goods as a tailor or perhaps separated from Elizabeth due to marriage problems?
I dont even know where they are buried but Elizabeth could be in Llanrwst St.Mary's as that is where her daughter Mary Hughes is with her husband and child.

I have a photo perhaps 1909 wedding with Elizabeth on, Mary and Wm John Jones, Grace and David who witnessed the wedding but no husband with the maternal lady.  No photographer imprint details unfortunately.
Gareth

[despair]

Following Brevitas' link I looked at www.old-maps.co.uk for The Queens Hotel around the period.
It is close to the railway station,which on the 1888-89 (1:2500)map is Diphwys station and on the 1901 map Duffws station.There are terraces in front of and behind the station e.g. Ynys,Unicorn and Geufron.Unless they are extensions of Geufron,there looks like two "unnamed" terraces in this series.To get into the right area use a current location close by for the initial search term,such as
Dolgarregddu,choose any of the address options,then load the equivalent historic map and use Windows zoom to magnify.

Regards
Roger

[Gadget]

Gareth

Have you traced your Thomas to before 1881, etc.? You say in an earlier posting that he was probably born Caerhun. I've been looking but the other Thomas Jones, tailor, born circa 1849, Ffestiniog keeps cropping up (father Joseph).  Do you have a marriage cert for Thomas and Elizabeth? Also, does the marriage cert of Mary to William John Jones give any indication of whether he is alive or not?

brevitas

[Gadget]

I see that this 1851 family is the one you've identified - HO107/2519/381/7

[garethgriffiths]

Thanks to all you folks for your help.
I am digging out the certificates.

Mary Jones 1909 marriage cert. states father Thomas Jones, tailor - it does not say deceased so have to assume he was alive 1909.

No details for Wm John Jones' father, name or profession are blank.
Gareth

[garethgriffiths]

All
I have marriage cert dated 23 Dec 1871 at Register office, Llanrwst for -
Thomas Jones 24 bachelor, tea dealer, Tal y Bont, Caerhun, father Thomas Jones, tailor
Elizabeth Williams, 21, spinster, tea dealer, Tafarn y Fedw, Llanrwst, father John Williams, labourer.

Witnesses Robert Jones and x mark of Catherine Wiliams.

I was pleased to see tea dealer however little else came from that information.
This Thomas is the tailor we are looking for not his father (yet).
Note this cert is a copy.
Gareth

[garethgriffiths]

Many thanks Roger
I have done as you suggested, I still havent located it, but it could well be in that corner above Uncorn or perhaps that area near Geufron, Ynys, etc.
Thanks, Gareth

[Gadget]

Hello again 

Using age at marriage and  Robert Jones as a witness, could this be your Thomas in 1851:

HO107/2519/42/3 HO107/2519/387/3
Tal y Bont, Tething Penfro
Thomas Jones, hd, 25, tailor, b. Llandrillo
Mary, w, 30, b. Llangwstenin
Thomas, s, 3, b. Llandrillo
Robert, s, 1 b. -do-

and this might well be him in 1891:

Sun Bach, Eirias, Conway
RG12/4673/33/25
Thomas Jones, mar, 43, tailor, b. Mochdre  (same area as Llandrillo)

What he would be doing on his own there, I'm not sure!

brevitas

[Gadget]

In 1901


Bryn Terrrace, Pen y Bryn,Eirias
RG13/5289/14/19

Hugh Jones, 50, blacksmith, b. Colwyn
Mary Ann, w, 42, b. Talybont
Mary, d, 15, b. Colwyn
Phoebe, d, 11, b. do
Annie, d, 8, b. do
Thomas Hugh, s, 6, b. do
Thomas Jones, brother in law, mar, 53, tailor (? - can't work out the other words*) , b. Mochdre

*A snip posted here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,370538.msg4772950/topicseen.html#new



It looks like long or on table!


brevitas