DIFFWYS TERRACE 1891 FFESTINIOG

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This 1861 suggests that the 1901/1891/1851 is the same family:

RG09/4360/12/2
Brynderwen, Penfro Caerhun

Thomas Jones, 35, tailor, b. Colwyn
Mary, w, 40, tailor, b. Llangwstenin
Thomas, s, 13, b. Mochdre
Robert, s, 11, b. Cowyn
Susannah, d, 9, b. Caerhun
Daniel, s, 6, b. do
Mary A, d, 4, b. do
David, s, 13 mths, b. do

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Summary of census info in date order ~

1851:
HO107/2519/42/3 HO107/2519/387/3
Tal y Bont, Tething Penfro
Thomas Jones, hd, 25, tailor, b. Llandrillo
Mary, w, 30, b. Llangwstenin
Thomas, s, 3, b. Llandrillo
Robert, s, 1 b. -do-


1861
RG09/4360/12/2
Brynderwen, Penfro Caerhun
Thomas Jones, 35, tailor, b. Colwyn
Mary, w, 40, tailor, b. Llangwstenin
Thomas, s, 13, b. Mochdre
Robert, s, 11, b. Cowyn
Susannah, d, 9, b. Caerhun
Daniel, s, 6, b. do
Mary A, d, 4, b. do
David, s, 13 mths, b. do

1871
RG10/5740/11/2
Frwd y Cwm/Corm , Caerhun
Mary Jones, wife, mar,  51, tailor's wife, b. Llandrillo
Thomas, s, 23, tailor's son, b. do
Robert, s, 21, do, do
Daniel, s, 16, do, b. Caerhun
Mary A, d, 14, do daughter, b do
David, s, 11, scholar, b. do
William, s, 2, b. Llandrillo

1881
as your listing in Reply # 2

1881 has them in Scotland St
Thomas Jones 32 Tailor b Llanrwst Tafarn Fedw (I think he was b. Talybont Caerhun)
Elizabeth wife 29 b Tafarn Fedw nee Williams
dau Elizabeth 8, son David 'Taid' Jones 3 and son Thomas Jones aged 6 months

1891
Sun Bach, Eirias, Conway
RG12/4673/33/25
Thomas Jones, mar, 43, tailor, b. Mochdre 

1901
Bryn Terrrace, Pen y Bryn,Eirias
RG13/5289/14/19
Hugh Jones, 50, blacksmith, b. Colwyn
Mary Ann, w, 42, b. Talybont
Mary, d, 15, b. Colwyn
Phoebe, d, 11, b. do
Annie, d, 8, b. do
Thomas Hugh, s, 6, b. do
Thomas Jones, brother in law, mar, 53, tailor on or long table , b. Mochdre

(How I hate typing on a laptop - the curser keeps moving around!)

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[garethgriffiths]

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Its interesting that you have come up with the Frwdy Corn connection as that is where I had stopped, it is next to Tal y Bont garage on today's B5106 road in Caerhun, an open orchard.
You have been very busy!

I am now looking at my original 1898 marriage cert for David ("Taid") Jones wedding to Grace Jones,
David age 20, Grace 21, he is a general labourer and both give their address as Severn Cottage, Grove Rd, Colwyn Bay, parish of Llanrhos; his father Thomas Jones, tailor, her father Thomas Jones, fisherman of Conway ('the old fisherman' with a beard that appeared on postcards).
Neither parent is shown deceased so probably Thomas Jones, tailor, was still alive 3/9/1898.
Gareth

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You have been very busy!

I went to Whitley Bay and got some sea air - it works wonders 

Why Mary was b. Ffestiniog, I don't know - maybe, as you said, he was an itinerant tailor and Elizabeth went with him    The 1891 and 1901 is definitely him though - sister Mary Ann being the clue.

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PS - it might be worth following Mary Ann on the 1911

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Well thank you very much for this, I am realising I may have read some of these before but never went with them because it was Llandrillo however as you say the link can come from others with better names for research particularily when its a JONES family.

I will wirte these down and ponder over this as its a lot to take in at moment.
I cant rationalise the Tething or Penfro part yet maybe deciphering Welsh spelling?
Thanks Gareth

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Putting on my best Welsh 

Just been looking at the map - could Tething be Tyddyn (bach) - just to the west of Caerhun?

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Penfro:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Caerhun/Gaz1868.html

 

[garethgriffiths]

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Now if you had said RHWNG-Y-DDWY-AFON I would have believed you from the start as I come from Llandudno/Conway originally!
Gareth

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The 1851 page has Frwdy Corn on a previous page.
Does it say Tithing of Penfro that would make sense? (tithe / tythe maps).
Gareth