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The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« on: Friday 28 December 12 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Good Afternoon.

A Newbee on the forum (found via google this afternoon) :)

I have been trying to research my family tree (Burgess) for the past few years, but with the arrival of 2 kiddies and work commitments it all came to a standstill.  I'm now ready and raring to go again.

I got as far as my Great great Grandfather last time (I think) and am hoping to go back even further.

Looking forward to a long and insightful stay on the forum  ;)

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 December 12 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Ian,

Quite understand your sentiments about "paying silly money" but unless you give us some other information other than just the "Burgess family" those of us who have paid silly money wont be able to assist you.

Tom

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 December 12 15:54 GMT (UK) »
LOL - Sorry Tom and thankyou....

Ok, My late father was David Michael Burgess, born Sept 1937 (baptised in Oct 1937)

His father was Frank Burgess who was the son of David Burgess (born 1876?) who perished in the minnie pit disaster of Halmerend in 1918.

I thought I'd traced his father but I am unsure as I think I may have missed a generation...

Thankyou again  :)

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Ian

Seem to be quite a number of the Burgess family involved in that mining accident:


http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/database/result/65800.html

I take it that David was married to Frances Ellen Dean, and with two children, Mabel & Ernest John in 1911.

Or David married to Ethel Ann Warburton with 2 children Fred and Eva- in both cases the men were involved in the mining industry-the latter being a coal miner & Hewer of 8 Hope St, Bignall End, Newcastle, Staffs.  That family in 1901 were living in Hope street, where another Burgess man lived called Thomas with his family.

However, with a name like Frank Burgess, maybe he was named after his mother, Frances, maybe he was called Francis. However in Free BMD there is a Frank born in September qtr of 1916, in Newcastle under Lyme mother's maiden name Warburton.

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Ian,

No doubt you have seen this before, probably in a local rather than National Newspaper:

The Times, Tuesday, Jul 20, 1920; pg. 20; Issue 42467; col F
     Safety In Mines. Rules To Prevent Explosions.
Category: Business and Finance

The report of Mr. W. Walker, Chief Inspector of Mines on the disaster at the Minnie Pit of the Podmore Hall Colliery near Halmerend, North Staffordshire-which took place as far back as January 12, 1918 was issued yesterday by the Home Office. It is accompanied by seven large and elaborate plans of the colliery workings. It is explained that the elapse of so long a period between the accident, in which 155 lives were lost and the holding of a Coroner’s inquest (In October 1919), and the formal enquiry was due to the fact that the Bullhurst seam gives off firedamp freely and is also liable to spontaneous combustion. Hence persons carrying out exploration work after the accident were forced to wear breathing apparatus, and progress was necessarily very slow.
The Inspector states that he had come to the conclusion that the explosion originated in or near the goaf at the top end of No. 4 district in the Bullhurst Seam, and that the cause was an explosion of coal dust which traversed roads reached by Banbury Dip Crut in the Bullhurst and Banbury Seven Feet Seams to which the force and flame of the explosion were confined. The igniting cause of the explosion of gas in or near the goaf was, in his opinion, either a defective safety lamp or sparks produced when the Bull-dog stone over the goaf fell. Of the two, he thought the former was the more probable cause.

What's a goaf?

Tom

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Goaf-http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/goaf

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:35 GMT (UK) »
There's also a David b.C.1876 Audley to John & Matilda who had a brother Frank.
1901:RG13/2582/12/16
Dean Hollow Audley:
Matilda Burgess/W/48/Audley
David/24/Colliery Lab./do
Frederick/16/Coal miner/do
Frank/9/no occ./do
1881:RG11/2702/15/24
Same address as above
John Burgess/32/engineman/Audley
Matilda/28/Audley
Wilmot/10/do
Edna/8/do
David/5/do
Elizabeth/2/do
Thomas/11months/do
I think this is the David married to Frances Dean as the Reg.Dist. is correct for Audley
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:42 GMT (UK) »
Your Great-Grandfather David is mentioned on this thread;
  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,86158.0.html

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: The Burgess family - Audley / Staffordshire
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 December 12 19:50 GMT (UK) »
On the other thread it states David was the husband of Ethel Ann and that they lived at Ravens Lane Bignall End.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk