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Re: JAMES HARNES (HARMES?) AND LOUISA DRAKE MARRIAGE
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 January 13 17:05 GMT (UK) »
The scribble is totally illegible and I've just looked through some previous pages on the banns to see if there is something similar written but no luck so far :-\

Also had a quick search on ancestry to see if there are any other James HARNES in the area and all I can see for 1881 is James Harnes on the electoral rolls for Isleworth, Hackney and St Pancras. No census came up.

I know that my Harmes were abt the only ones in Hammersmith at that time and St Peters was the local church.  I think that is where James married Mary Ann in 1879.  :-\
SUSSEX: GANDER, HARMES, BURTENSHAW, HEASMAN, CHATFIELD
CAMBS :  SERJEANT, THURSTON, BUSH, SMART, BOLTON, MATTHEWS, REEDER, RAINER, PATMAN BECHINO, ALIAS GOOCH/CURTIS, WALLIS
KINGS LYNN: ASSELL, THURSTON
SUFFOLK: HENLEY , DARE
KENT: ASH, STICKLES
LONDON/MIDDX: HARMES, PIERPOINT, ASSELL, COWLAND, SMART, STRONG,
ESSEX: PIERPOINT, COWLAND,  OLLEY, ALIAS HICKS/KING
AUSTRALIA: ALIAS HICKS KING
CANADA: AYERS

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Re: JAMES HARNES (HARMES?) AND LOUISA DRAKE MARRIAGE
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 January 13 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Yep, that will be James' signature on John's and Louisa's marriage register.
They were the only two harmes children with the initial J.

If it had just been marriage banns for James HARNES then I wouldn't have thought twice but because it is for a Louisa DRAKE as well that made me question it  ???
SUSSEX: GANDER, HARMES, BURTENSHAW, HEASMAN, CHATFIELD
CAMBS :  SERJEANT, THURSTON, BUSH, SMART, BOLTON, MATTHEWS, REEDER, RAINER, PATMAN BECHINO, ALIAS GOOCH/CURTIS, WALLIS
KINGS LYNN: ASSELL, THURSTON
SUFFOLK: HENLEY , DARE
KENT: ASH, STICKLES
LONDON/MIDDX: HARMES, PIERPOINT, ASSELL, COWLAND, SMART, STRONG,
ESSEX: PIERPOINT, COWLAND,  OLLEY, ALIAS HICKS/KING
AUSTRALIA: ALIAS HICKS KING
CANADA: AYERS

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Re: JAMES HARNES (HARMES?) AND LOUISA DRAKE MARRIAGE
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 January 13 17:16 GMT (UK) »

I have zoomed in as far as I can on James' name if you compare the way James' christian name has been written look at the 'm'  'e' & 's together, the 'e' could be missing from the surname and therefore it reads as HARMS

That's the best I can come up with

see the signatures on Rosie99 reply 2

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: JAMES HARNES (HARMES?) AND LOUISA DRAKE MARRIAGE
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 January 13 17:22 GMT (UK) »
The witnesses on James and Mary Ann's marriage are of his brother John and his wife Louisa Harmes nee Drake.  Ha ha confusing isn't it  :o

To insert a picture into a thread the picture must be saved in my pictures on your computer.  Then you can upload it from there  ;)
SUSSEX: GANDER, HARMES, BURTENSHAW, HEASMAN, CHATFIELD
CAMBS :  SERJEANT, THURSTON, BUSH, SMART, BOLTON, MATTHEWS, REEDER, RAINER, PATMAN BECHINO, ALIAS GOOCH/CURTIS, WALLIS
KINGS LYNN: ASSELL, THURSTON
SUFFOLK: HENLEY , DARE
KENT: ASH, STICKLES
LONDON/MIDDX: HARMES, PIERPOINT, ASSELL, COWLAND, SMART, STRONG,
ESSEX: PIERPOINT, COWLAND,  OLLEY, ALIAS HICKS/KING
AUSTRALIA: ALIAS HICKS KING
CANADA: AYERS


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Re: JAMES HARNES (HARMES?) AND LOUISA DRAKE MARRIAGE
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 January 13 17:26 GMT (UK) »
Hmmmmm, I think you are right with the name being HARMS  ;)
I am going to search on ancestry to see what comes up for James HARMS.
SUSSEX: GANDER, HARMES, BURTENSHAW, HEASMAN, CHATFIELD
CAMBS :  SERJEANT, THURSTON, BUSH, SMART, BOLTON, MATTHEWS, REEDER, RAINER, PATMAN BECHINO, ALIAS GOOCH/CURTIS, WALLIS
KINGS LYNN: ASSELL, THURSTON
SUFFOLK: HENLEY , DARE
KENT: ASH, STICKLES
LONDON/MIDDX: HARMES, PIERPOINT, ASSELL, COWLAND, SMART, STRONG,
ESSEX: PIERPOINT, COWLAND,  OLLEY, ALIAS HICKS/KING
AUSTRALIA: ALIAS HICKS KING
CANADA: AYERS