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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 23 September 23 11:50 BST (UK) »
Is there any information about Eva Flanagan, who married Peadar Kearney? On their marriage registration, her address is 10 North George's Street. Who were her brothers and sisters and parents?

Have you searched for her?
Possible birth here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02327/1871215.pdf
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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 23 September 23 13:35 BST (UK) »
In attempting to make a connection between our family and Peadar's I found out the following:

Eva Mary Flanagan
born Oct 13 1892 at 44 Bridgefoot Street
census 1901 at 13.3 James St, Ushers' Quay
census 1911 at 61.3 Thomas St, Merchants'' Quay
married Feb 15 1914 at 10 George's St
Died Sept 05 1956 25 O'Donoghue Street, Inchicore

She was the daughter of
Thomas O'FLANAGAN, a farrier with Guinness
(s/o Thomas O'FLANAGAN and Catherine ? of Drogheda)
bc 1850; d. Dec 06 1908
and
Julia McGARVEY, a milliner
(d/o James McGARVEY and Margaret BEGLIN)
bap Mar 04 1850 St Paul's Dublin; d. Mar 09 1912 61 Thomas Street
Thomas and Julia married on Nov 04 1877 in St Audeon's Church and their marriage record names their parents.

On the 1911 census there are five members of the family listed and Julia states she had nine children of whom six were alive.

1 1879 b.1879 Jun 19 Thomas Joseph
2 1881 bap. Jan 10 Eliza
3 1882 bap. Jan 03 Catherine
      1915 Feb 09 married Michael J COOKE in Marlboro Street Church
4 1885 b. Aug 23 Margaret Mary
5 1892 b. Oct 13 Eva Mary
6 1889 b. Apr 25 Mary Josephine; died Jan 09 1889 aged 1 yr 8m
7 1890 b. Aug 20 Anna Georgina; died Mar 16 1890 aged 6m
8 1891 b. Apr 29 Bridget Mary; died Apr 29 1891 aged 3 weeks
9 1892 b. Dec 09 1897 James Anthony

I've never proven that elusive connection!
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 23 September 23 17:45 BST (UK) »
Here's Peadar Kearney's parents getting married, I think, in Slane (marriages are/were normally in the wife's homeplace) - John Kearney, trader from Dublin and Kate McGuinness of Higginstown; both of their parents are farmers https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/11019/8029162.pdf

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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 23 September 23 18:08 BST (UK) »
If someone (including myself) has already posted this, apologies - the Dictionary of Irish Biography piece on Patrick John Bourke:
https://www.dib.ie/biography/bourke-patrick-john-a0801


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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 24 September 23 07:51 BST (UK) »
Hi HC
I have researched Peadar Kearney trying to make a connection to our family  ;D
It is reputed that he is related in some way but as yet I have struggled to prove this
My OH's grandparents were a BOURKE and KEARNEY and it is to this family we were told there was a connection; this story was also passed to "newly aquired" cousins that we have recently come into contact with as well as through our own family.

This is some of what I have on Peadar's immediate family:

Father:   John KEARNEY b. 1854 d. c1897 Collon, Co. Meath
Mother:   Katie McGUINNESS b. 1860 d. c1903 from Dunleer, Co. Louth
   Married in St. Patrick’s Church, Slane, Co. Meath on Oct 13 1881

Their children were:

PEADAR   b. 1883 d. 1942
   Born at 11 Lower Drumcondra Road now 68 Lower Dorset Street, Dublin
   On 1911 census at North Dock, Dublin (as Gaelige)
   Married EVA FLANAGAN 15.02.1914 in the Pro Cathedral Dublin
   Two Children: Pearse 1916 and Colbert 1918
   Lived at various other address including Richmond Cottages, Summerhill & died at O’Donoghue Street, Inchicore.

MARGARET MARY b. 25.05.1885 at 68 Lwr Dorset Street bap. St. Michan's; died unknown
   Married Patrick J.BOURKE of the Abbey Theatre in 1905
   Owned Costume Shop on Dame Street
   PJ Bourke (van driver) was living at 13 Feighcullen, Cloncurry, Kildare in 1901
   Family was living at 10.5 Dominick Street Lower, Rotunda, Dublin in 1911
   Children: Lorcan c1906, Riocard c1908, William c1910, Grainne (married Eamonn Andrews), Sue (married living Dublin Musician), Seamus (de Búrca) plus four more.

MARY   b. 29.12.1886 at 76 Church Street bap. St. Michan's; died unknown
   Married MICHAEL SLATER in 1909
   Living at 8.2 Summerhill Parade, Mountjoy, Dublin in 1911
   Shown as Micheál Ó Slátóir, Máire and Máirín aged 1

KATHLEEN b. Sep. 18 1889 d. Apr. 26 1984
   Born at 11 Lower Drumcondra Road now 68 Lower Dorset Street, Dublin on records
   Sent to orphanage (with her sister Margaret) after her father’s death in 1897 age 8

   Married #1: JACK FURLONG b.? d. 1918 of influenza
   Children: Rory b.c1916 & Sean b.c1919

   Married #2: in 1922 STEPHEN BEHAN
   lived at 14 Russell Street, Dublin from 1923 to 1935; unknown 1935 to 1937;
   lived at 70 Kildare Road, Crumlin from 1937 to her death in 1984 aged 95
   (their address was given as 79 McCaffrey’s Estate on Brendan’s birth cert
   – this was Peadar Kearney’s address at the same time)

   Children: Brendan Feb 9 1923-Mar 20 1964; Seamus Mar 06 1925-2002;
   Brian Nov 10 1926-Nov 2 2002; Dominic Oct 22 1929-Aug 3 1989,
   DAUGHTER 1932-? and Fintan (died in childhood possibly age 7)

POSSIBLE TWIN OF KATHLEEN is PATRICK JAMES b. Sep. 19 1889 d. ??
   Baptised in Pro-Cathedral with his twin Catherine on Sep 20 1889
   Address shown as 49 Capel Street; father JOHN mother Cath Magennis


JIMMY   Married KATHLEEN GILL
   Oct-Dec 1920 Dublin North 2/473 – went to USA

JOHN   Married MOLLY TERRETT
   Saw reference in my research that they lived in Offaly but no further information
   Possible marriage in 1920 in Mountmellick Apr-Jun V3 P417
   John Richard KEARNEY to Mary Anne TERRETT but unconfirmed


Seamus de Burca gave papers that included a family tree to the National Library but I haven't had time to research this yet
I have further information on previous generations of Kearney but will need to seek out that paperwork

PM if there is something specific I'll look and see if I can help!


@Myluck, I've failed to find John Kearney's death registration, and I can't see the Kearneys in Dominic/ck Street in 1911, can you help?

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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 24 September 23 07:54 BST (UK) »

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...and Kate McGuinness of Higginstown;

Higginstown townland in Slane civil parish.
https://www.townlands.ie/meath/upper-slane/slane/slane/higginstown/


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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 24 September 23 08:08 BST (UK) »
John Furlong was born on 29 December 1885 (and registerd 1886) in 28 Gloucester Street, or Gloster Street as it was often spelled then.
Do you know which orphanage Kathleen and Margaret grew up in?
I can't find the Kearneys at all in the 1911 or 1901 censuses, except for Peadar in 1911. There's a Kate Kearney the right age living in Oldcastle, Co Meath in 1901 with a brother (he's a Kelly, but this doesn't necessarily exclude him; people remarried and their children had different surnames), but her children don't match the Kearneys we have; the same Kate Kearney is living in Oldcastle in 1911. She's listed as 'married' in both of these censuses.

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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 24 September 23 10:35 BST (UK) »
I wonder if these Bourkes/Burghs/Burkes - De Burca in the 1911 census - are some of yours, @myluck -

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Gardiner_s_Place/31514/
In the household return, in Irish, their trades are given as Cáit (Kate) the Cork-born bean-an-tighe or woman of the house, and baintreabhach or widow; all the rest of the family are aontach - single; her eldest daughter Dun Laoghaire-born Áine or Anne (38) is múinteoir - teacher; Tomás/Thomas (26), also born in Dun Laoghaire, is a clerk with the London and North Western Railway Co; Daithí/David (25) is a second-rank civil service clerk in the Land Registry; Seaghan/John is a clerk in the Gas Company; Madoalín (18) is described as Inghean léigheann - perhaps a student? And two friends are present, Líle/Lily Ní Phleamóinn / Lily Fleming (17 1/2) Inghean léigheann, and Seaghan Ó Dhonnchadha, who's fear dlí or a barrister, and is 38; a cailín aimsire or housekeeper aged 21 is also present, not sure of the first name but maybe Síle, Ní Chártaigh Na Ghleann or McCarthy of the Glens - she's from Rush in north Co Dublin.

Damn, of course it's a student, she's using the feminine version of macléin, which is nowadays normally used for both sexes.

Ooops, missed a niece, Áine Ní Raidhsaigh (Anne Rice), she's 32 and is from Kerry, as are Líle and Seaghan.

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Re: Peader Kearney -
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 24 September 23 13:56 BST (UK) »
In answer to your questions, where I can:

John KEARNEY (was from Collon, Co Meath originally)
He died on Dec 25 1897 in the Mater Hospital, Dublin aged 43
Group ID Number 4226793 –
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05849/4657196.pdf

Kate KEARNEY
She died on May 23 1907 in the Rotunda Hospital in the presence of her son Peter (Peadar)
Her age given as 46, address as 38.1 Gloucester Street, an Insurance Collector’s widow.
Group ID 4909623 Dublin North - https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05532/4550644.pdf
At the time of their marriage (1881) the addresses given would have been their then current residence.

The most probable baptism record for her found to date was on Sept 30 1859 in Slane
Parents shown as James McGUINNESS & Mary HICKEY (who married on Oct 04 1856 in Dunleer)

They had eight children as shown before plus Hugh, who died an infant, found since.
Hugh born July 07 1893 (registered as Unknown Kearney), died on Aug 24 1896.

1901 census returns are for
Kate KEARNEY
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003762764/
in house 28.5 in Summerhill (Mountjoy, Dublin)

She is shown with a Kate LEESON aged 49 and deaf, a visitor.
Kate LEESON is on the 1911 census at house 16.7 in Frederick Street, North (Rotunda, Dublin)
with her sister Bridget Hickey and both are shown as born in Drogheda.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000072414/
The Hickey name could indicate that she was a relative of Kate McGuinness-Kearney.
Kate Leeson died on Dec 19 1925

People in institutions were shown as their initials only on census returns
I believe  the KEARNEY children are in house 97.3 in Cabragh (Castleknock, Dublin)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Castleknock/Cabragh/1268764/
There are possible matches for Margaret Mary (MK as 13 or 14), Mary (MK as 11 or 13), Kathleen (KK as 9 or 12), and also the living boys - Patrick (PK as 13), John (JK as 11) and James (JK as 4 or 5).

It is difficult to definitively prove these initials match to their names without checking the specific institution records. Kathleen Behan referred to her time in Cabra in her life time and I believe this is the correct location for at least her and Margaret.
Proving these records is something I have not had time to do yet.

This is possibly Peter/Peadar KEARNEY on the 1901 census, mistranscribed as KEANNEY, at
house 42 in Upper Sackville Street (North City, Dublin) as a servant
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003776240/
He is on the 1911 census at house 46.3 in Corporation Buildings (North Dock, Dublin)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000068479/

By the 1911 census all of the Kearney daughters are married and on the census returns as their married names.
 
Your Q? - I can't see the Kearneys in Dominic/ck Street in 1911, can you help?
It was the Bourke family (Margaret Kearney) who were living at house 10.2 in Dominick Street, Lower (Rotunda, Dublin) in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000090225/


Our Bourkes originated in Kilkenny - I don't believe that the family in Gardiner Place are related but I don;t rule anything out (or in) until it's proven! Thank you for the information.
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder