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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 October 19 14:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie99
Thanks for the info. I am trying to find out who Moses father and mother were. I figured it
would be on a death certificate but cant even find one. Where do I find this death Registration?
Appreciate your help thanks

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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 02 October 19 15:09 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too.

His baptism details, including his parents' names, was posted at reply #5 - along with a suggested marriage for the parents.

You can find his death registration on FreeBMD or GRO Online. You'd need to order the death certificate from GRO Online for full details.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 02 October 19 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosie99
Thanks for the info. I am trying to find out who Moses father and mother were. I figured it
would be on a death certificate but cant even find one. Where do I find this death Registration?
Appreciate your help thanks

English death certificates do not name parents
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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 October 19 14:57 BST (UK) »
Hi again all, thanks in advance for your help.
What is puzzling me is that Victor said Moses BARNES, son of James & Ann, a Gardener of Cheltenham, baptised at St Mary, Cheltenham, March 28th, 1823. however according to my
info. James and Ann didnt have a son called Moses. I may be wrong and would really be pleased
to find out without doubt who Moses mother and father were. Thanks again and have a good weekend.


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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 October 19 16:22 BST (UK) »
You really need Moses marriage certificate to see who he named as his father. 

The entry that Victor has posted regarding James and Ann as Moses parents is from the church baptism record
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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 October 19 18:51 BST (UK) »

There is a tree on Ancestry which includes a copy of the Marriage

1844, Parish Church Boddington

April 8th

Moses BARNES, full age, Bachelor, occupation: Gardener residence: Boddington

Father: James BARNES, Gardener

Tryphena DIX, full age, Spinster, residence: Boddington

father: Samule DIX, Gardener

witnesses: Joseph DIX and Ann  SLICE?????


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This tree includes of photo of Moses


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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 05 October 19 07:51 BST (UK) »
1841 census for James & Ann
H0107/ 353 Bk 3 f30 p11 - St Mary, Cheltenham - Copttage, Upper Field

James Barnes 45 occ Gardener
Ann 40
Samuel 13
Miriam 15
Amelie 13
James 11
All born in county except Ann

Moses is possibly at Dukes Head, Duke Street, Cheltenham
H0107/353  bk3 f34 p19

Robert Barns 20 occ ag lab
Moses Barns 18 occ Carpenter
Both born in County
Ancestry have it transcribed as Barris

Robert Barnes was baptised at Cheltenham 9 December 1820 parents James & Ann
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Re: Cheltenham PR and 1841 census - Moses Barnes
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 05 October 19 08:05 BST (UK) »
The following children appear to have been baptised at Cheltenham, parents James & Ann

Mary Ann 13/02/1816
Emma  21/11/1817
Ann 23/05/1819
Robert 09/12/1820
Moses Meacham 28/03/1823
James  23/03/1825
Samuel 13/02/1825
Miriam Church  27/10/1826
Amelia 20/03/1829
James 06/03/1831
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