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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #18 on: Friday 25 January 13 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Re Heptonstall St Thomas & Halifax St John's

I have a feeling that Heptonstall was not licensed for marriages at that time so marriages took place in the parish church of Halifax or at Cross Stone Todmorden.

The Lancashire / Yorkshire bit can be quite confusing. In 1841 the Todmorden area was in Lancashire except for the areas of Heptonstall, Stansfield & Langfield. By 1851 the whole area was Yorkshire so depending on which side of the border someone was born (even just a few miles up the road) they could have been born 'out of county' in 1841. It caused me endless headaches when I first started researching

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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 26 January 13 00:34 GMT (UK) »
Totally agree!  I also find it very confusing, but am trying to work thru it with lots of help!
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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 26 January 13 08:36 GMT (UK) »
St Thomas, Heptonstall was licensed to conduct marriages following Hardwicke's Marriages Act of 1754, along with St John the Baptist, Halifax and St Mary, Elland. - Calderdale FHS

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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 26 January 13 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Bumblebee is correct. The churches mentioned were the only ones which could conduct marriages in the whole of the very large parish of Halifax, from 1754 to 1837. That's why marriages of non conformists took place in the C. of E.

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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 26 January 13 12:06 GMT (UK) »
yes - sorry I made a mistake with marriages at Heptonstall.

I should have known better - I have at least 2 marriages in my own tree at St Thomas' - the earliest 1794!

brain in gear.... comes to mind ???

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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 26 January 13 13:19 GMT (UK) »
This might be a dumb question, but where would a marriage in that area take place before 1754?


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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 26 January 13 13:23 GMT (UK) »
St Thomas, Heptonstall marriages commence 1593.  Baptisms and burials 1599.  Well, that's when the parish registers date from  :)
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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 26 January 13 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Sallyyorks - On the 1841 census how did you know that only Martha was born in Lancs? I am looking to see if I can find a birth for John.  The transcription says he was born in Lancs. I assume that is wrong....I'm assuming since the ages could be rounded down that I need to look around 1771 - 1776 in Yorkshire. Also saw something funny on another census.  Have to go back to see which one.  Looked like boxxes saying if you were deaf, dumb were checked for all family members..

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Re: Bentley family - Heptonstall, St. Thomas
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 26 January 13 21:44 GMT (UK) »
on the 1841 census the next to the last column states whether born in county or not. All except Martha say 'n' (not). That would fit if they were born Erringden as that was Yorkshire and they were living in Spotland (Rochdale) Lancashire, basically the other side of Todmorden