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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 23 April 16 09:08 BST (UK) »
Solomon Bockerah is not in St Philip cemetery, Solomon and daughter were burred at Devon Shire/ sand Hills which is now Central Station Sydney i fear they maybe still there, however i did locate Ann Bockerah

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #19 on: Monday 25 April 16 04:56 BST (UK) »
wow can you please, can me the source of your information, many thanks
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Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
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Pownal = Stockport

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Devonshire Street Cemetery commenced in 1820

https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-69

Sydney Burial Ground Sept 1792 until 1820
http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/sydneys-history/people-and-places/old-sydney-burial-ground
Scroll down to the Excel spreadsheets a) with the burials and b) with reference to the abbreviations used

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 02:13 BST (UK) »
Solomon BOCKRON, a Jew, was buried 16 July 1791 and the record of the burial is included in the St Philips register.  This is the Church of England register that contains the NSW Chaplain's records. 
 
See NSW BDM Early Church Records Volume 4, line 321, 1791.   

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/6022845

Hi there,

Perhaps you will consider ordering an Official Transcription of an Early Church Record
NSW BDM online index has TWO entries, (most likely for the one burial, one record being a transmittal record of the other):
Solomon BOCKROW  Vol 2A, line 1297, year: 1791
Solomon BOCKRON, Vol 4, line 321, year: 1791

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm 

ADDING:

Just checked online NSW BDM ECR'S Burial records : Vol 2A, line 965, 1793 and Vol 148, line 431, in 1793 refers to Ann BOCKERAH.

And also

Sarah LAURIE's burial is Vol 17, line 516 in 1833.  Sarah was noted as aged 42.
 

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 02:36 BST (UK) »
Being a bit of a sticky-beak (in my experience many of us interested in genealogy are... ::) ) I'm interested to know how/why this family was in Oz so early? Wonderful to find these early records and especially the grave at Parramatta.

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 02:59 BST (UK) »
Solomon BOCKERAH  tried 9 Sept 1789 at London, Life sentence,
Arrived per Scarborough 27 June 1790.

24 April 1810 at 10 A.M.
marriage by banns, registered in St Philips C of E by Rev William Cowper
John LAURIE, bachelor, of Sydney, Overseer  (signed)
And
Sarah BOCKERER, Spinster of Sydney (signed)
Witnesses Mary DELANEY and Barnard WILLIAMS  (both signed)

Check the NSW Col Sec papers,  Jan 29, 1810, Sarah BOCKRER, born in the Colony. 
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/b/colsectoc-b.htm

I do NOT have a copy of the following, but I understand that Michael Flynn’s book “The Second Fleet” may well have further info on Solomon and Ann BOCKERAH.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8479345?selectedversion=NBD9926052
and also
C J Smee’s book may have descendants and genie info   ( I don’t have this either, sorry, my earliest arrived on the Bellona, Jan 1793)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/5322875?selectedversion=NBD7200857

Cheers,  JM 
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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 03:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for your helpful information
Cheers
Murray
Kelly = Auckland, Galway, IRE
Sheard = NZ & Leicstr
Shearman = NZ & Cork
Ward = Thames NZ & Coventry
Elston = Devon & USA
Sonter = NSW & Kent
Chaney = NSW, NZ & Kent
Buchan(an) = NZ & Scotland
Bockerah = NSW, London & Sephardi Jew
Laurie = NSW, NZ & London
Te Kanawa = Kawhia NZ
Ford & Hatherley = Portsea
Parnell = Norfolk
Pouclee & Coutanche & Le Dain = Jersey Channel Is
Gibbs = Southland
Jackson = Ch/Ch NZ
Kingston = NZ & Somerset
Newbegin = Akaroa & Northumberland
Pownal = Stockport

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 07:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks, JM. I now understand about Solomon's arrival but what about his wife, Ann Sarah?  Did he marry here in Oz or did she come with him, or later??

This is the link to the trial of Solomon at the Old Bailey
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17881210-82&div=t17881210-82&terms=bockerah#highlight

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Re: St John's Cemetery, Parramatta, and St Philip Churchyard burials NSW
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 26 April 16 08:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Judith,

These are very interesting questions you are asking .... I will add .... and their daughter .... was she born in England or in NSW ?   How did these two arrive in NSW?   Who paid their fares?  Who provided for them both after Solomon's death?   

Was Mrs Bockerah with her daughter among the 'came free' women  :) ....

Just because there's no record of a marriage at the NSW BDM index does not mean there was no NSW marriage ..... but if Solomon was married in England .... perhaps familysearch ?

For example, here's a baby boy born 1789 for a Solomon and Ann BOCKERY, St Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England  :)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLJQ-9DX

Cheers,  JM
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