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DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« on: Saturday 26 January 13 04:02 GMT (UK) »
My great-great-grandfather, Richard B. Dawe died in Yorkshire abt. 1919.  Don't have a specific date or place.  His first wife, Jane Leming Dawe, died 25 Mar 1888 in Skelton, Guisborough, NRY.  She was buried that same year in St. Margaret's Anglican Churchyard in Brotton, NRY. The family lived in N. Skelton, Saltburn, and Brotton.  There may be several infants buried there also.  Can anyone who is in that area tell me if Richard is buried near/with his first wife?  I believe his second wife was Emma Smeeth Buckingham Dawe whom he married abt. 1891.  She died in Lancashire abt. 1913.  Three of Richard and Jane's sons had moved to Burnley and Brierfield, Lancashire prior to sailing to North America.  They left Liverpool in 1904 (to Canada) and 1912 (NYC).  Thanks, RedFox
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 January 13 06:52 GMT (UK) »
I assume this is the Richard Dawe death that you are referring to  :-\

Richard Dawe
March qtr 1919
Age at Death 77
Reg district Middlesbrough
Yorkshire North Riding
Vol 9d Page 914

It is a bit confusing for me, you appear to be using maiden surnames as christian names for his wives  :)  ;D
His marriage to Emma just gives her name as Emma Smeeth.

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 January 13 13:47 GMT (UK) »



This would be one of the infants you mentioned, born to Richard's first wife :

Burial : 2nd June 1876
Richard James Bowden Dawe
Aged - 18 mths
St Margaret's, Brotton

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 January 13 13:51 GMT (UK) »


Also, another possible :

Burial : 14th July 1878
Richard Ernest Dawe
Aged : 15 mths
St Margaret's, Brotton

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 January 13 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both Rosie and Pels.  Richard B. and his wife Jane had six children born while they lived in Skelton/N. Skelton.  Two of the boys who grew to manhood, emigrated to the US.  The third son who emigrated was born in Cornwall - he was my ancestor.  The couple also had two infants born in Cornwall who died. 

Rosie, I tend to use a woman's complete name for purposes of identification.  Richard's middle name was his mother's maiden name.  I have the same death registration for Richard.  I just didn't know/wasn't sure if he was buried at St. Margaret's since his wife and sons were.  I haven't followed up on family members who lived in the area.  I think most of the women married, but it's been difficult to verify some of their spouses.  Thanks for your help.  RedFox
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 August 13 03:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks, again Rosie and Pels.  I had forgotten completely that I had requested the information only 8 months ago.  Richard did marry Emma in Guisboro several years after Jane had died.  I had the name of Smeeth [nee Buckingham].  I don't know the name of Emma's first husband nor do I have info on her death.  I do know Richard died in the third quarter of 1919, but no other details - exactly when, where buried. 

Thank you for coming to my aid again.  Over the years, I have always been able to depend on RootsChat for answers.
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 13 09:15 BST (UK) »



Hello again,

Marriage, June qtr 1861
Richard Bowden Smeeth
Emma Buckingham
Launceston, Vol 5c, page 51

This looks like them living in Burnley in 1881 :

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQDF-55T

The actual return is written as Smith.

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 August 13 09:19 BST (UK) »


Richard Smeeth's death :

Death, Mar qtr 1890
Richard Bowden Smeeth, aged 52
Burnley, Vol 8e, page 168

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Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you Pels.  I'm still wondering how his middle name could have been Bowden as was Richard Dawe's.  It's an unusual name and equally unusual for Emma to have married two men with the same unusual middle name.  Smith makes more sense than Smeeth.  Kind of like Smyth/Smith.  According to what you found, Smeeth had only been dead one year before Emma married Richard.  It would seem Richard and Emma Smeeth lived in Lancashire where RBDawe's sons lived.  So maybe RBD met Emma on an earlier visit to his family.

Supposedly, Richard B Dawe's daughter Jessie had done a family genealogy.  That would have been something worth reading. Pels, I was just re-reading my notes on Emma and her first husband.  They lived in Guisboro, so probably knew the Dawe family from there, and the Smeeth couple was from Cornwall, not that far from where the Dawe's initially lived.  Plus both men were tin miners in the Linkinhorne, Cornwall area.  I have a similar situation in a later relationship in the same family, so it's not that unusual.  Still wonder where she and Richard B Dawe were buried.
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz