William LANGLEY

[PeeCeeBee]

Many thanks for all the detail Gerry and Merlin.  I would think that the entries for 1865 and 1867 are William Langley senior - they lived at the Port, he was a mariner, I know, and a son drowned in 1869, his mother saying at the time that he waited for his brother to return to Port... There is also a William Langley and son who lost a vessel interstate, but not sure if this was from SA or not. 

Ralph Samuel is a son of Wm and Eliz. 

There is a Warwick Langley with children's names similar to those of Wm Langley... just to confuse the issue, they are all around the same ages too!  Need to do some more searching on the CD-roms...
Regards
Paula

[judb]

From  England & Wales, Criminal Registers,

Elizabeth HEPPLEWHITE, 16, convicted Durham County Sessions, 31 Dec 1838. Larceny by servant, 6 months imprisonment. Degree of Instruction: Imp (Presumably to do with her literacy level)

Elizabeth HEPPLEWHITE, 17, convicted Durham County Sessions, 29 June 1840.  Larceny, before convicted of a felony. Sentence: 7 Years transportation. Degree of Instruction: Imp (Presumably to do with her literacy level)

Convict Musters: (how employed or placed)
1841 - House of Correction, Launceston
1846 - Ticket of Leave

There is an on-line tree which suggests that Elizabeth LANGLEY died 30 August, 1903 Parkside South Australia.

It also shows the following Index entry as being the death of William:

Reg Adelaide, South Australia, p229, Vol 36
William LANGLEY, 50 (b abt 1819)
Died 6 Oct 1869 at Port Adelaide, Residence:   Port Adelaide

From TROVE
The sad story of the drowning of a child, Chas LANGLEY, no age given, at Port Adelaide, July 1869. Son of William and Elizabeth LANGLEY.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/41406994
(There is another report in another SA newspaper giving his names as "James" but it looks as though he was Charles the youngest of the children listed by Dee from BISA)

Judith
 

[judb]

Seems that we have found quite a deal of information about William LANGLEY and his wife Elizabeth HEPPLEWHITE and their family.

To return to your original question as to whether the W'm above is the same person as William LANGLEY b Paddington abt 1819.

Given that the name is not at all uncommon there are some points of similarity.
The age given in the 1869 death entry matches - b abt 1819
Birthdate given in Tasportal Family Links is 1820 - matches nicely.

In your original post you stated that there were indenture papers - was there a profession/occupation listed?
Are there 2 separate immigrations given here?
(Quote)2. who was an Assisted Emigrant in 1836, and came to South Australia on the ship SARAH AND ELIZABETH (which was owned by the SA Co. at that time)
3. who arrived in SA on board ship D'AUVERGNE

Judith

[PeeCeeBee]

Hello Judith
Thanks for all the summary - for a couple I knew little about I have managed to put quite a bit together, and even more with the help of the Rootschatters...
My dilemma is -
the indenture gives an age, but no occupation, but just that he was indentured to the South Australian Company for a period of 4 years.  The cover of the indenture is illegible, unfortunately as I think it does give a name of the person to whom he was indentured - possibly WILLIAMS, but that really doesn't help!  (The indenture is a copy only at the State Library of SA - and not able to see the original to really give it a good going over.  Would love the SLSA to actually scan documents and put them on their site!)
The SA Co owned the ship SARAH AND ELIZ at the time that Wm Langley came to SA as an Assisted Emigrant; age is consistent with b. 1819, so I feel that maybe the SA Co indentured the crew (who were all Assisted Emigrants... almost) and brought them to SA as part of the settlement of SA.

Along with a Mr Langley travelling from Launceston 1841, there is a William Langley arriving from Launceston in 1848... perhaps he regularly ventured there as a crew member and then returned to SA.  The SARAH AND ELIZ continued some whaling after she came here in 1836 - and is mentioned in newspapers in Tasmania too.

I have yet to look for a further return to England, but there is a William Langley who arrives in 1839 on the D'AUVERGNE - age unknown... so purely supposition that he is one and the same, and quite likely not!  Not sure how to go about proving it isn't him (or otherwise)!!  I may need to get to the State Library again and chase this through...

I can now safely say that William Langley was a free man and married convict Eliz Hepplewhite.  I know all the children who were born in SA, and have now found an entry for William Henry born in Tasmania on Ancestry, to verify the detail from you.

Found an article regarding Wm and Eliz who had some goods stolen from their home in 1868 - the perpetrator was sentenced for 1 year ... wonder how Eliz felt about this as she was given 'transportation' for her second offence, and the boarder who stole their goods had done so for a second time!

Have been out all day today, so that is as far as I have got - some of the detail in my first post is clarified, but am now chasing the son.  I am still trying to confirm the deathdates too ... have not found any death notices so far.  All in all though, have managed to build a story around the family - prompted by a query regarding the family, which really is my son-in-law's...
this family history research is so addictive!
Many thanks
PCB

[Aussie1947]

1903 SA Post Office Directory
Langley Ralph S, stevdr, Waite st, Glanville.

24 mentions for Langley in this Directory.

Gerry

[PeeCeeBee]

Thanks Gerry
The person who prompted this research is connected to Ralph Langley, so will be interested as to where he is to be found.  I have given her the link to this ...
Still looking for Wm, the son...
Regards
PCB

[Aussie1947]

One more for Ralph.
1922 SA PO Directory

Langley Ralph S, lbr, Kilkenny rd, Woodville Park Extension.

Gerry

[judb]

TROVE has a few mentions:

April 1851 at Port Adelaide, Mrs Elizabeth LANGLEY convicted of assault. Fined 10s
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38437089

Feb 1857 at Port Adelaide - Mrs Langley (and three other women) fined for assault of another woman - seems to have been mainly hair-pulling! Fined 15s
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49767053

Jan 1858 at Port Adelaide, Ann HAINS fined 5s for using abusive and threatening language toward Elizabeth LANGLEY. (The report of this altercation is quite witty!)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49773661

Jan 1866 at Port Adelaide - Ralph LANGLEY having suspected stolen liqueurs in his possession.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/94743215

Feb 1867 at Port Adelaide - goods stolen from William LANGLEY - already mentioned above.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/39192418
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/91265966
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28797596

Feb 1868 at Mt Gambier, petition for release of Sarah LANGLEY who had been convicted of throwing a bottle at the head of a man who was fighting with her intended husband.

Aug 1868 at Adelaide, William LANGLEY, labourer of Vincent St, Port Adelaide,  fined 5pound for non-attendance at a jury panel.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/31981115

Nov 1868 at Mt Gambier, William LANGLEY guilty of stealing half-a-crown. (No address given so perhaps this is not the same family)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/77166132

Mar 1874 at Port Adelaide, Ralph LANGLEY sued the master of the Alabama for non-payment of wages.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/39824147

Dec 1893 At Port Adelaide Ralph LANGLEY charged two boys with stealing a clothesline.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/25671429

I could easily have missed some!  Judith

[PeeCeeBee]

Thanks Judith
Had some of those, but not all...
Just found the obituary for Thomas Giles Langley - it mentions going to the south-east with his parents... in 1868?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/54875003

Have yet to find where William Langley is buried - perhaps in the SE somewhere!!!
Cheers
PCB