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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 April 20 07:42 BST (UK) »
My x Grandad - on 3 Census returns - went by his Grandmother's surname !! and moved Counties (to escape debt) - he was a Miller and the Corn tax left him bankrupt - so anything is possible.

so James was married and discharged 1866 as an Invalid - did he return to England?

?  England, Select Marriages

St Modwen's Burton on Trent

James GLADDIN
aged 28
birth date: 1825

father: Charles GLADDIN

Spouse: Elizabeth HARDY


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 1841 Census, Burton on Trent

GLADDIN

Charles 45
Elizabeth - 50
Ann - 25
George - 20
James - 15
Elizabeth - 9 mon  (Grand-daughter - 1851 census ) may be mother was Ann - did she have Thomas ??

1851 Census, the surname is spelt GLADEN




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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 April 20 08:01 BST (UK) »
Details of the 1853 marriage at St Modwen, Burton on Trent:

28 February 1853 - by Banns

James Gladdin (x), bachelor, 28, Labourer.  Father:  Charles, Labourer
Elizabeth Hardy, spinster, 28.  Father:  Thomas, China Painter

 
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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 12 April 20 08:06 BST (UK) »


Ann GLADDIN didn't marry until 1 March 1868 - aged 48 (father Charles GLADDIN)

to James George ASHCROFT at Burton Upon Trent -

full details not on Ancestry

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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 12 April 20 08:18 BST (UK) »
1 March 1868 - St Modwen, Burton on Trent - by Banns

James George Ashcroft, 58, widower, Cooper.  Father:  James George, Cooper
Ann Gladdin (x), 48, spinster.  Father:  Charles, Shoemaker

Witnesses:  George (x) and Elizabeth (x) Gladdin

Another marriage entry for Ann Gladdin - but obviously not the same one  :)

25 December 1861 - Christ Church, Burton on Trent - by Banns

William Banister, full age, bachelor, Labourer.  Father:  William, Labourer
Ann Gladdin, full age, spinster.  Father:  George, Labourer

Witnesses:  George Gladdin (x) and Selina Banister
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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:16 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 12 April 20 08:01 BST (UK)
Details of the 1853 marriage at St Modwen, Burton on Trent:

28 February 1853 - by Banns

James Gladdin (x), bachelor, 28, Labourer.  Father:  Charles, Labourer
Elizabeth Hardy, spinster, 28.  Father:  Thomas, China Painter

This looks promising, but I just need some sort of link from James to Thomas (b.1843/44), but cannot find a relevant birth in Burton upon Trent for Gladdin/Gladwin



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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 12 April 20 09:37 BST (UK) »
It wasn't until 1874 it became compulsary to register a birth.  I have a Great Uncle who was born illigitimate in 1897 and his birth nor baptism is registered.  I have his death certificate with his date of birth.

Thomas GLADWYN - enlisted February 1858 and according to the National Archives he was 13 years and 10 months :  c April 1844

Date of 1851 Census was 30 March - so 'Tom' should be 6 years old.


1861 Census, Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire

Ann GLADDIN - unmarried, 41, Charwoman & Laundress, born Staffs, Burton upon Trent

? where is Ann in 1851


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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 12 April 20 14:12 BST (UK) »
There's an Ann Gladdon b Burton c1820 working as a servant in Leamington in 1851

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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #25 on: Monday 13 April 20 23:40 BST (UK) »
Staffordshire B.M.D. shows four Gladdin births;-
Elizabeth b. 1840
Emma b. 1842
Ann b. 1845
Charles b. 1847
these could be part of the family.
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Re: Thomas Gladwin b 1846 Burton on Trent
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 23 March 24 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Well, we're over 11 years since the original post, and still no closer to finding a) Thomas Gladwin's birth, b) parents or c) whereabouts in 1851 census.

Anyone had a moment of inspiration?
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