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Offline DevonPaddyB

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Moore Street market people - COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 06 February 13 17:42 GMT (UK) »
I've just found a photo of my Granny, Ellen Flood, in Barry Kennerk's new book on the Moore Street market area, she was a flower seller at Nelson's Pillar around 1900. It reminded me about another photo (below) which was passed on by a relative who told me it was Mary Quirke at her stall in Moore Street around the mid 1980s. I was told that she was related to our Flood/Quirke family line. I would welcome any recollections or information about her that people may have - including confirmation or otherwise about her name and her married name.
I was also told that her pitch was passed on to her daughter, who may still be alive - in which case please PM any information since posting about living people is not allowed.
Ireland: Quirk(e), Flood, Quin, Toole,
Byrne, Brennan, Walsh
England: Andrews, Powell, Freeman, Yarnold, Mason,
Wainwright, Biddlestone, Sanders, Perrin

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 13 15:22 GMT (UK) »
flower sellers circa 1900s nelson pillar.

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Grizzly1,
Great photo - not sure about the date though, the fashions look wrong and I'm pretty sure the local ladies didn't have 10/- to spend perming their hair in 1900.
What do you think?
Paddy
Ireland: Quirk(e), Flood, Quin, Toole,
Byrne, Brennan, Walsh
England: Andrews, Powell, Freeman, Yarnold, Mason,
Wainwright, Biddlestone, Sanders, Perrin

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:34 GMT (UK) »
quite possible right paddy,i found the photo on a forum and it was posted circa 1900s...but you are quite correct..possibly closer to 1920ish..perhaps someone could date it?
 i know the family that have the flower stall there to-day at the site of the nelsons column, and i know a lot of the street traders in moore st, as you quite rightly say, many of the pitches have been handed down from generation to generation..


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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 13 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Grizzly1
I would appreciate it if you could use your contacts within the Moore Street community to see if anyone remembers Mary Quirke and her family.
Paddy
Ireland: Quirk(e), Flood, Quin, Toole,
Byrne, Brennan, Walsh
England: Andrews, Powell, Freeman, Yarnold, Mason,
Wainwright, Biddlestone, Sanders, Perrin

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 13 20:25 GMT (UK) »
From the picture, I would guess that skirt lengths etc. would be more like, after "the emergency".

Also, as well as the price, the term "perm" I think is more 1950s and 1960s.  I think that in the 1930s the terminology was a "Marcel Wave", but I could be out with that date.

The horse drawn laundry cart might suggest an earlier date but they were used for various businesses based on regular stops well into the fifties in England.  I remember not just the rag-and-bone cart in the midlands but also an Italian ice-cream vendor in Salford (I still remember how good the ice-cream was!) well into the fifties, and a local milkman in Penn, Wolverhampton, using a horse-drawn float into at least the early 1960s.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 February 13 20:35 GMT (UK) »
.. and also interested in any response to Paddy's query re. Mary Quirke.  I too have a much earlier Mary Anne Quirk who was a fish-seller and living in Moore Street in 1911.

If the pitches are regularly handed down within the family, I wonder if it's possible to trace family that way.
McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, O'Brien, Cuthbert, Keegan, Quirk(e), O'Malley, McGuirk (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 February 13 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Grizzly1
I would appreciate it if you could use your contacts within the Moore Street community to see if anyone remembers Mary Quirke and her family.
Paddy
i most certainly will enquire for you,its possible that i will be in the area to-morrow and i will enquire with some of the older traders regs mary ..i will then p.m you.

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Re: Moore Street market people
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 February 13 21:46 GMT (UK) »
these ladys would be also selling at same spot nelsons pillar...different era to above pic by the looks of photo.