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Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« on: Thursday 07 February 13 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to?  The only census Iíve found him is 1851.
Apprentice to Coach Maker, Evesham (HO107 piece 2044 folio 79 page 36).

He was born 1831 Leamington Priors. He married Jane Lewis (b. 1833 Wootton Wawen) 23rd December 1855 St. Martins Birmingham.
They had five children
1)   Lizzie 1857 Oakham, Staffs.
2)   William Frederick 1858 Oakham.
3)   Walter 1859 Henley in Arden, d. 1920 Leek, Staffs.
4)   Emily 15th January 1870, Carlisle St., Birmingham. Birth certificate states her father as   Samuel Derry, mother Jane Metcalf.  The birth is registered under Derry and Metcalf.
5)   Edwin 10th Feb 1872, back of 22 Kent St. Birmingham.  Birth certificate shows father as Peter Metcalf, occupation Black Smith, mother Jane Metcalf formerly Lewis).

1861 children were staying with relatives.
Lizzey was in Alcester with her uncle and aunt George and Ann Lewis.
Frederick was with his grandmother Mary Lewis in Wootton Wawen.
Walter was a Nurse Child in the house of Matilda Lowe (36) Widow, Henley in Arden.

Where were Peter and Jane in 1861?  Perhaps Jane was ill after the birth of Walter?
1871 Jane, Lizzie, Walter and Emily were living in Birmingham. Jane's occupation, Book sewer and folder.  Sheís noted as married where was Peter? RG10 piece 3130 folio 85 page 8.

Havenít found a death for Peter Metcalf, however in 1876 Jane Metcalf married Charles Coleman in West Brom.

1881 Janeís  occupation Stationery folder similar/same as in 1871.  The family were living 7, Trentham Place, Cattell Road, Aston.  Emily and Edwin are noted as daughter and son of Charles Coleman (RG11 piece 3023 folio 99 page 5).
Emily married under the name Metcalf and in later census Edwinís surname is Metcalf.

By 1891 Jane was a widow, occupation Stationery Folder. Thereís a death registration for a Jane Coleman, 1897 Kings Norton. Another possibility Jane Metcalf 1898 Birmingham.

Any help in solving the disappearence of Peter Metcalf much appreciated

Regards
Keziah  :)

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 13 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I think that Jane is lodging in Birmingham in the 1861 census. Transcribed as Melalf aged 26, married, stationer, and born Wootton Wawen.

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Re: Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 13 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi
!841Leamington priors Brook st
William Metcalf 50 labr y
Mary 20 y
Elizabeth 15 y
Rachel 15 y
George 10 y
Peter 10 y
There is also a 1915 census for Kansas
Peter Metcalf  83
Matilda 63
Rosa 11
However his age does change dramatically with each census 1880 Lane Kansas US
Peter 36 farmer England
Matilda 20  Louisiana
William T 1 Kansas
Andrew A 7m
There is a passenger list on the 31.10.1863 Illinois from Aspinwall Panama  to NY.
Geo Metcalfe 27
Peter Metcalfe 32 both miners.
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ps the 1910 have them married 33 years with 15 children 8 living.Mary A 25,Lizzie 18,Nina 16,Malinda 13,Mina 12 and Rosa 6.1900 Anna m born 1883,Alice 1888.And on both he is a farmer.


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Re: Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Worth looking at the one in Kansas. There are a number of submitted trees on Ancestry which include photographs. Peter Franklin Metcalf.
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Re: Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 13 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Mo thank you for finding Jane in 1861, had looked at all combinations for surname, didn't consider Melalf  ::)

The Peter Metcalf with family in Kansas is a possibility.  I'd looked at the Ancestry trees for Peter Franklin Metcalf previously but had discounted him because a) the place of birth given as Lincolnshire;  b) middle name of Franklin [he was baptised as Peter Metcalf 4th Dec 1831 Leamington] and c) the year he emigrated, 1856 on one census.
 
His first three children with Jane Lewis were born 1857, 1858 and 1859.  Emily's father we know,  from her birth certificate 1870, was Samuel Derry.  Perhaps Jane was telling porkies when she named Peter Metcalf as the father of Edwin (1872)  :o

Keziah
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: Where did Peter Metcalf disappear to in census records?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 February 13 11:41 GMT (UK) »
Morning all  :)

Have been dissecting the Ancestry trees.  Can now discount Peter Franklin Metcalf as the person I'm looking for.  He was born Dec qtr. 1837 Spalding and is with his family in Donington in 1851 aged 13.  My Peter Metcalf was in Evesham in 1851.

A couple of the trees have included the baptism of my Peter, 1831 Leamington, as being Peter Franklin born 1837.      Not unusual with Ancestry's hints and tips  ::)

Keziah
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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