BRECK, THOR MATTISON - Possible to snap pic. of grave in Hillsborough, Auckland?

[Magne]

Ok, good to know, Janette.

Cheers!

[Fresh Fields]

Magne, that is incredibly bereft of information or anything.

Usually they would have court proceedings, an affadavit, stamp duty receipt, etc.


I guess you could now look to the local council to find out about the property but I doubt that will tell you much, unless he passed it to a descendant who is named on the title.

Hello.

Re the Probate. At a 1930's valuation of just five pounds for the LEASEHOLD of a small cottage it would appear to me that the lease may have been informal, or that the lease had limited time left to be on-selling. If the latter, and it was a formal registered leasehold, there should be record/s of the lease still in existence, which may contain more info about the title and it's history.

- Alan.

[Magne]

Hello, Alan!

Thank you for your post. This helps me understand more about Thor's financial situation. 

[Fresh Fields]

Hello again.

I tried for a quick look at THE OFFICIAL 1930 New Zealand YEARBOOK, but on dial-up it took so long to load. I think it looks like the per annum Old Age Pension, at that time, was about Forty Five Pounds, Ten Shillings. The area of LEIGH was settled by many of similar roots to Thor, and if there were official leases in place, they could contain information about who he was doing business with, and possibly borrowing money against, a leasehold title held. Especially if he had been resident there for some time. A lot of leases had a 19 or 21 year term. 

Fishing could have been an income earner for him. Though small, the Leigh port inlet was the only safe berth for fishing boats, to unload, between the industrial ports of Auckland and Whangarei. Like wise the providing of a permanent mooring, hence a dinghy to get to the boat.

- Alan.

PS. I'm an inland farming guy so not up on marine history. Though Leigh and near by beach coves had a busy early boat/ing history, by 1930 and the start of the depression, I'm uncertain of whether there would have been an official register of local moorings to/by a local authority, but you could try an email to, moorings AT auckland,govt,nz [got the drift] to see how far back the current records for OMAHA COVE (Leigh) go. They are the current administrators for the area.

- Alan.

[Fresh Fields]

Thank you, TwiggyTree!

I thought so too. However, I did not enclose the first page of the two I received. This because of size limits and also that I believed it was not important. I should have mentioned this however.

I have changed the format and enclosed the page below now. Do you know what this page is called?

My main question: Do you think anything is missing from the probate I reveived from NZ?

All the best!

Magne

Not sure officially, but to me it is the fly or cover [title] page of most legal documents. The wrap around of the legal document inside, and filed for future reference by the respective courts.

- Alan.

[Fresh Fields]

Yet again.

Of interest there are currently only 10 publically listed NZ phone numbers for the surname and spelling of MATTISON, and all but a couple are within two hours drive of Auckland City.

http://whitepages.co.nz/white-all/mattison/new-zealand/

There were none for BRECK and some 120 for BROCK.

Also of interest, as previously mentioned, there is a bay and small cove called MATHESON Bay and a road called MATHESON BAY road, at the southern end of the settlement called Leigh. Is this an English spelling variant of a surname within the family tree? It is quite possible that when Thor left the gold fields he headed north to be with Scandinavian kinfolk, whether directly related or not.

- Alan.

[Fresh Fields]

OOP's I think this country boy is all at sea on this one. Just looked at the Boats for Sale in the Auckland papers for 1930. Even though it was the start of the depression,  reliable second hand dinghy's were still being advertised for sale at a pound per foot of length. A boat & dinghy, for five pounds, if sea worthy, was a give away, and would be too small to require a mooring.

- Alan.

[Magne]

Interesting posts, Alan.

It seems that Thor did not have any offspring in NZ, but of course one must always keep the possibility open.

Now I'm waiting for his Naturalisation papers. Curious to see what info they will contain. Perhaps more info on his route to NZ can be found.

[Magne]

Seems these records take more time than expected to transmit. I have even emailed Archives NZ several days ago without getting any reply.

If anyone knows any possible reason, please let me know

( Perhaps I will hear from them already tomorrow! )