Bill MORLEY's family- SA

[blamcca]

Was Mary a widow? Otherwise I am quite confused to where the SWAN comes from in Bill's birth registration.
Thanks for all this everyone.
Gerry you found them! Thanks. So, John wasn't a Morley. He was originally a Green and must've taken the name MORLEY.

Blake

[blamcca]

I am getting confused. I think John was actually illegitimate and GREEN was Mary's surname.
So have no idea where SWAN came from.

[deeiluka]

John GREEN was baptised 15th October 1843 in St Peter's, Hockwold.
Mother = Mary GREEN. Abode = Wilton.
No father given.

If he was illegitimate, then his father may still have been James MORLEY.   


Dee   

[deeiluka]

Marriage on FreeBMD....

James MORLEY to Mary GREEN  June Qtr 1844 Thetford District
13/503

But William's birth registration definitely says Mary SWAN. Have you sighted the certificate? Only thing I can think of is a major mistranscription error.  Or there is another James Morley/ Mary SWAN having children by the same names in Norfolk. But there's no sign of them.


Dee   

[blamcca]

Very True Dee. Except if it was his I think they probably would've married before the birth or shortly after.
I can't find a Swan-Green marriage. So I am completely perplexed to where SWAN came from 

[deeiluka]

I just modified my last post, Blake.....doing more than one thing at a time here.      

And I have an ancestor who had 4 children and didn't marry the mother.....then had two more children with a different woman.      


Dee   

[blamcca]

Must be some mistranscription! 

Wow that ancestor certainly sounds interesting.
Emma (who married William) had previously been married twice and had 3 partnerships. Between marriage number 1 and 2 she had an illegitimate son with her sister's husband!

Blake

[deeiluka]

Summarising… all these children were baptised in St Peter’s, Hockwold, Norfolk with parents James MORLEY, bricklayer, and Mary/Mary Ann GREEN……

John….baptised GREEN we think came to S.A. His father not given as MORLEY…… On 1851 Census

Samuel….we think came to SA….. On 1851 Census

Ellen….we think died on way out.

Emma baptised Feb 1850

William baptised Jan 1848 …..FreeBMD has the death of a William MORLEY Sep Qtr 1850 in district of Thetford.

Can’t find a death for Emma!

The Problem? If this is the family, why is Mary's maiden name given as SWAN when the next child, named William, is born in SA?


Dee   

[blamcca]

Back on the John GREEN thing. I think you may be right about him actually being James' son, because on the census he is stated as son, not step-son or son-in-law (I have seen them described as this).
No I couldn't find one for Emma either.
It is a pity we can't find registrations for James or Susan Ann who must also have been born in SA. It'd be interesting to see what the maiden name of Mary was given as. Perhaps SWAN was her mother's maiden name. I have another ancestor, who on most of her children's birth registrations used her mother's maiden name, rather than her's.

Blake