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bit of a dead end. Literally!
« on: Saturday 23 February 13 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Not sure where to go next in finding a death for a person.
Her name is Nellie Everett or Broughton
What I know:
She was a dancer
She met George Phillips-Broughton between 1911 and 1914 and he left his family for her.
Cannot find a marrige between George and Nellie.
1914 had a daughter Queenie Phillips. (Used the married name Nellie Phillips)
1918 had a daughter Nellie Phillips-Broughton. (Used the married name Nellie Phillips-Broughton)
between 1919 and 1933 lived in Chelsea as Nellie Broughton.
1947 George dies in Trent on Stoke, no mention of a widow in newspaper article or on his death cert.
There are 4 Nellie Broughtons that died between 1932 and 1947 in the index. One is too young, (born 1901), I have death certs for the others, none fit. Husbands names are wrong. One has George William as husband but my George is George John.
No Nellie Everetts died between 1933 and 1947 in the index.
What I dont know:
Her age
where Nellie and George lived between 1933 and 1947
when she died.
My next guess is that she left George and maybe remarried. Did she use Broughton or Everett?
Some ides or options would be appreciated.
I am in Australia so some of my search options are limited.
Can people tell me about voting registers or the likes during the war years? I know there was one election just before or during the war.
Any help would be appreciated.
thx
Duane
Broughton London
Phillips-Broughton London

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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 February 13 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Added note.
I have verified that George William isnt my George and Nellie. Voting registers show them together in 1932, at the right address at the same time as my George and Nellie were living in Chelsea.
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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 February 13 03:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Duane

What was the exact date of George's 1947 Death - what surname was his death registered as?

Edit: Found it FreeBMD & http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=593315.0
Died 2 March 1947,  registered as George P BROUGHTON age 76.

No sign of any Will or Admon.

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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 February 13 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Thx Ambly,
Yes thats him. He died after fall down some stairs. There was an inquest, so there was a newspaper article and no mention of a wife. His Grandson broke a window and found him, so he was alone. Thats why I was trying to find Nellies death, but as I said, I have hit a dead end.
again,
thx
Broughton London
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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 February 13 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Have you discounted this?

Deaths Dec 1934   
Broughton,  Eleanor, 66
Kensington  1a 124

Do you know when she was born?

Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley, Conway, Stewart
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Nixon, Sharp, Greaves, Naters
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara, McClure, Howard, Melvin
Lincs - Smith, Vinter

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, , Stewart, Conway, Heather,

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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 February 13 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Eleanor Broughton who died 14th November 1934, 92 Queen's Gate Kensington left a will. She was a spinster. The executor of the estate was Dame Florence Bowles wife of Sir Henry Ferryman Bowles Baronet.


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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 February 13 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Duane:

Just because there was no mention of a wife when George died in Stoke in 1947 doesn't mean that she wasn't still around. After all if they weren't married she probably wouldn't be mentioned. She may have been away when he fell. She may have also continued to live in Stoke.

What about this Nellie?

Nellie Broughton, 85
Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
1982 Dec
Vol 30, Page 1454
Date of Birth: 1897

Considering he left his wife and family for a dancer, I'm assuming that she would have been at least 20 years younger than him.

Just a thought  :)
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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 February 13 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Thx to everyone. Thats an interesting one Sami. It fits well, apart from the fact, she would have been only 17 at the birth of her first daughter, although the birthdate can have a couple of years added too it. They never fit exact do they.
The approx birthdate means that I can look to see if there was a Nellie Everett born about that time.
I will have to get her death cert, but I fear it will not tell me anything. It may or may not have her husband on the cert.
Thx for the lead anyway.
Duane
Broughton London
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Re: bit of a dead end. Literally!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 February 13 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but women under 30 didn't routinely have the vote until 1928, so she must have been of an age to appear in the register for 1919.

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