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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Registration of births in Ireland started in 1864- the indec is online at https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084. However, finding her in the index may be difficult with a 'double' surname so be sure to try all possible variations.

Where does Cork as a possible birthplace come from? have you traced her in all possible census records to see if more detail/other information given for birthplace?

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1911 born Co. Cork https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7LY-547
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Sorry aghadowey, I forgot you'd put those links.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all of you. I have tried all the censuses, trying Byng or Master. On her marriage Cert:  the Master-Byng is hyphanated. If I put a request on the Ireland board how do I put the "link" please?
I wonder also as this is proving very difficult could she just have assumed her surname?

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Before posting on Irish board please search for the birth registration (link given earlier).

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Could be. My guess is that she was illegitimate but perhaps was always told her father was a George Master-Byng and so used that name on her marriage. If that is the case she may not have used that name until she was an adult, so will be very difficult to find.

From my earlier post, George Stanley Byng 8th Viscount Torrington and the father of George Master Byng, was ADC to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland from 1876 to 1882. If you can find out where this was it might give you a start of where to look for the birth.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:13 GMT (UK) »
I have carefully tried all the links you have suggested.
I have only found Cecile on the British 1911 as Cecile Call a visitor in Cornwall where she gives her birth as 1880 in Cork, says she has been married 7 years which we know not to be correct. She is supposed to have had 2 children but they do not show in the birth records. Also if Cecile had given birth I  would have expected to find this in Grandmother's diaries her first grandchildren.
The more I chat the more "fishy" this becomes.

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Who is the informant on the death certificate?
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:43 GMT (UK) »
I have just posted on the Cork board & do hope I did the link correctly.
The informant on the death cert was Annie Cox of Rora Farm Ilsington present at death.
Cecile lived at Rora House. I would think that Felix was away with the Army.
Looking on the web re Ilsington it would appear that the Cox family owned the farm for many years.

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 14 March 13 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Back to the 1911 census- "The 1911 shows a Cecile Call in Breage Cornwall as a visitor, but that states she had been married 7 years has had 2 children who both died."
We know that Cecile and Felix married in 1910 so the number of years married is incorrect so the other details about Cecile (age, place of birth and children) could also be incorrect.

P.S. I fixed the Cork post, Vesta. The link goes in the body of the message not as the title.
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