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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 March 13 11:38 GMT (UK) »
George Master Byng, 9th Viscount Torrington, only had one sister - Bridget Vera Byng.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 March 13 11:42 GMT (UK) »
There's more available online for George Master Byng but no sister Cecile listed- George's father married twice but both marriages after 1882. Wonder if Cecile could have been illegitimate? interesting to know what's listed as father's name and occupation on marriage certificate.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 March 13 11:54 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if this is just a coincidence:

George Stanley Byng 8th Viscount Torrington and the father of George Master Byng, was ADC to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland from 1876 to 1882.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 March 13 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the last two suggestions. I hadn't considered that Cecile could be illigitimate but of course it's a possibility--- I will  eagerly eagerly a clear readable copy of her Marriage Cert. It is odd that Cecile died very close to the area that George Master Byng died. Her name does not appear on any of Felix's Army Records  only that he was a widow. Her death is not recorded by my Grandmother in her diary for 1918 or in The Times.


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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 March 13 11:13 GMT (UK) »
First thank you all for the help.
The readable copy of the marriage cert just arrived. She is Cecile Ethel on her marriage cert, though Cecile Esther on her death cert. Her father is George S Master-Byng, of independent means.
Cecile's address at the time of her marriage was Russell Sq. Bloomsbury-- a spinster. I am wondering now how I can prove if she did indeed belong to Viscount Torrington.
As her marriage is June 1910; the 1911 census shows a Cecile Call as being married 7 yrs with 2 children who were dead---- I have conflicting evidence.

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 March 13 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Have you viewed the actual census image or a transcript? If the latter perhaps '1' has been mistranscribed as '7'.
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 March 13 11:38 GMT (UK) »
There is also George Stevens Byng, 2nd Earl of Strafford?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Byng,_2nd_Earl_of_Strafford

But no Cecilia in the family!

Which begs the point, again.
Was she the illegitimate daughter of a Byng? :o
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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 14 March 13 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for replies. I have just relooked at the 1911 census & I wood think it a clear 7.
What can I do to find out if she was illigitimate? It would appear that neither sets of parents attended the weddding!

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Re: Cecile Esther Master-Byng
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 14 March 13 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Why do you think "It would appear that neither sets of parents attended the weddding!"

I have seen family trees of titled families that do not included all daughters/children so wouldn't rule Cecile out just yet. I remember years ago a relative looking at her details under titled husband's entry in Burke's Peerage saying "Well, they got my details all wrong. Someone would have a hard time trying to trace our family going by that!"
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