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Offline MiKki of MnM

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1911 Census. Any Ideas???? Completed
« on: Friday 22 March 13 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I have been trying to find my Grandfathers Parents (james Smith b. 1888 Hay Green, Worcestershire & Elizabeth Thomas b. unknown) in the 1911 Census for so long now, they are driving me to distraction! Not only are they not mentioned anywhere that I can see on it nor do they seem to have had a marriage. 

My granddad (William Thomas Smith) was born 10 Oct 1911, so his mother was 2 months pregnant at the time of the census. Ok  so they might not have been married. But Granddad was born in the same house as his Grandparents on his fathers side, (Thomas & Eliza Smith) who are mentioned in the 1911 census at 15 Vicarage Road, Lye, Stourbridge.

James & Elizabeth went on to have two more children Gladys b. 1914 and Beatrice b.1917 both in Stourbridge. Sadly Elizabeth died at some point between 1917 and 1921, when James remarried Fanny Norris, who then had a further two children Sydney 1923 and Jean 1927, both in Stourbridge.

Any ideas where these people could be hiding in the 1911 Census. I know a marriage for these two very common surnames is virtually impossible, especially if it really didn't happen.  But surely they should be in the census somewhere??? If not why not???

I know no-one can do a look-up for me, but any ideas of what to do next, would be greatly appreciated.  I've tried all the usual tricks of omitting christians name, then surnames, birth place etc etc.

Kind regards

Mikki  ???
Smith's of Worcestershire/Staffordshire
Baker's of Hernhill, Kent
Hockey's of Crewekerne, Somerset
King's of Chatham & Gravesend, Kent
Bennett's of Clifton Hampden, Oxon
Stone's of West  Farleigh,Kent
Ennever of Holborn Middlesex
Thompson of Shorne Kent

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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas????
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 March 13 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mikki

What was James' occupation according to the birth certificate of William?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas????
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 March 13 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi AVM228

Thanks for getting back to me.  James is a coal miner on Williams birth certificate.

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Mikki
Smith's of Worcestershire/Staffordshire
Baker's of Hernhill, Kent
Hockey's of Crewekerne, Somerset
King's of Chatham & Gravesend, Kent
Bennett's of Clifton Hampden, Oxon
Stone's of West  Farleigh,Kent
Ennever of Holborn Middlesex
Thompson of Shorne Kent

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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas????
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 March 13 10:08 GMT (UK) »
I will send you a PM with some ideas.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas???? Completed
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 March 13 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

     has rootschat changed it's policy on  "people finding" in the 1911 census--please say this is so and help me find my grandfather --driving me mad that I cant find him :'( :'(

Regards.

Marysma
Horn/Horne,Johnston,East Lothian
Horn/e, Farquhar,Shanks,Reid,Geddes, Banff and Buckie

Petrie--Moray/Portgordon
Shanks,Moray

Morgan,Peirce,Thomas,Branch,South Wales

Crimmins/Crimin, Ring, Co,Cork.

Flynn-- Dungarvan,Waterford,Ireland.
Christopher, Waterford



Pride and Long ,Newington Bagpath,Glous,England.

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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas???? Completed
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 March 13 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

     has rootschat changed it's policy on  "people finding" in the 1911 census--please say this is so and help me find my grandfather --driving me mad that I cant find him :'( :'(

Regards.

Marysma

  As far as I know   we can't  put info on here( the forum)  about people  on 1911  apart from what can be seen on the free search   ie  just   a name and  place  of residence  and birth year

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Re: 1911 Census. Any Ideas???? Completed
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 March 13 18:17 GMT (UK) »
 :(thats a shame Jan.

I have searched and searched the 1911 for my grandfather and as far as I can see he is just not on there.Tried searching his parents names but as they are Morgan in Wales its like searching for a needle in a haystack!!.

Thanks for replying.

marysma
Horn/Horne,Johnston,East Lothian
Horn/e, Farquhar,Shanks,Reid,Geddes, Banff and Buckie

Petrie--Moray/Portgordon
Shanks,Moray

Morgan,Peirce,Thomas,Branch,South Wales

Crimmins/Crimin, Ring, Co,Cork.

Flynn-- Dungarvan,Waterford,Ireland.
Christopher, Waterford



Pride and Long ,Newington Bagpath,Glous,England.