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Moves between parishes
« on: Saturday 30 March 13 11:14 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone advise where I should look to ascertain the reason my family moved from Hitcham, Suffolk to Hornchurch, Essex ca. 1820?

I am hoping to find records that refer to at least names in the party, but even better would be reasons for the move

I am sure I read once that the parish of settlement had to agree to the move and that they could send back to parish of origin if family needed poor relief? So I'm thinking there may written records that cover all of this?

Online would be best. Or would it be best to visit Essex Record Office?

Thanks

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 March 13 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Excalibur68 - Perhaps you will find this link helpful as it relates to Settlement Orders, Settlement Examminations and Removal Orders:-

http://www.ennever.co.uk/stories/richard.htm

I found that a missing ancestor of mine had been re-settled. I did a random name search on the National Archives A2A site and it refered me to a settlement order of which I ordered a copy on line.  It contained details of she herself (she had been recently widowed) and of all her children including their ages and I was able to confirm I had the correct family :-

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/

Good luck.

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 March 13 13:59 GMT (UK) »
How certain are you that they received poor relief?

Might it be possible that they simply moved for work /employment opportunities (a fairly valid reason to move) and didn't leave any kind of paper trail?  :-\

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 March 13 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Essex records are online  at :

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/IndexSearch.aspx?SearchType=7

you can see the indexes for free and buy a 24 hr sub (£5) or longer.

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 March 13 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both

I am not certain they received poor relief and am sure they moved for very ordinary reasons. However, I thought all inter parish moves had to be approved regardless of reasons?? No?

So was just seeking another type of record to pin down the move date and individuals

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 March 13 22:00 GMT (UK) »
I thought all inter parish moves had to be approved regardless of reasons?? No?

Maggie's link explains this but  in your case,  ie; after 1795 then they would have had to apply for relief or have been caught begging
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 March 13 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Youngtug

The way I read it was that after 1795, begging or application for relief would indeed have had to occurred for a removal order to be initiated...

...BUT that Settlement papers would ALWAYS be required in order to legally enter a new parish...it was the settlement papers that I was interested in finding

Maggie - Thanks for the help. Nothing on A2A on searching by name I'm afraid

Diddymiller - will check ERO Tx

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 March 13 22:27 GMT (UK) »
A settlement certificate from the parish they are leaving would be needed to show to the new parish.
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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Re: Moves between parishes
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 March 13 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Please let us know if you find anything Excaliber.