WHITE Thomas, b1854 St Keverne

[bails]

Looking for information on Thomas White, b1854 in St Keverne, Cornwall. He married Annie (can't find maiden name) in 1890 and had four children - Thomas b1877, Maude b1892, George b1894 & Gwendoline b1899.

I think his son Thomas was born to a previous wife as Maude, George & Gwendoline are all borne after Thomas & Annie's marriage in 1890.

I found some census info on Thomas from 1861 to 1911 (missing 1881 & 1891) but haven't been able to ascertain who his parents were as he was living at his (I think, grandmother or g-grandmother's) home in 1861 (noted as a boader at 7yrs old) and his aunt's home in 1871.

Any information would be appreciated.
Cheers.

[KGarrad]

Added info for those looking

Maud, Gwendoline and George all born in Cardiff (c1892-1899).
Edgar born in Cornwall (c1877)
Family in Abersychan in 1901 (RG13, 4945, 45, 35).

I can't see a birth for Edgar White around 1877 (He and Annie born St Stephens?), so I am thinking that maybe he was Annie's son?

[KGarrad]

1891 census:
Reference RG12, Piece 4401, Folio 82, Page 46
39 Ferry Road, Canton, Cardiff

White, Annie  Wife  F  31  b St Stephens, Cornwall
White, Edgar  Son  M  14  Scholar  b St Stephens, Cornwall


Can't see Thomas in 1891 (maybe he was in the Army?), but I did find this possibility for Thomas in 1881:
RG11, 655, 62, 28
18 St Philip Cottage South, Battersea

White, Thomas  Lodger  M  28  Railway Guard  b St Kevin, Cornwall

[trish1120]

Possible Christening;
Thomas Morrish WHITE, 29 Sept 1853, St Keverne
Mother ANN White
(Source Cornwall OPC)

1861 where Thomas is with Ann White she is born c 1778 and in 1851 she appears to be alone born c 1782 St Keverne.

Trish

[trish1120]

Marriage Reg;
Thomas Morrish WHITE, June 1890, Cardiff, 11a 432
Annie TRUDGLAN/TRUDGIAN on same page

1871 Census Annie Trudgian c 1860 is with her THOMAS Grandparents in St Stephen in Brannel, Cornwall

1881 she seems to be a Servant in Surrey (where KGarrad found Thomas in 1881)

[trish1120]

 

Marriage;
17 May 1890, ST John, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Thomas WHITE, 36, Single, Father GEORGE White
Annie TRUDGIAN, Single, Father JACOB Trudgian


Looks to me that Thomas told porkies on his M/C!

1881 Census Edgar TRUDGIAN age 4 is with his Elijah Trugian in St Stephens

Thomas may be totally mistranscribed in 1891 where he is a Lodger.
Thomas White born c 1870 St Just, Cornwall, Unm, Railway Engine Driver.
Living in Battersea, London

[trish1120]

1901 with Thomas/Annie is Daug in Law Maggie White born c 1880 Gateshead, Durham
By 1911 (as Margaret) she has Children Margaret Ann 1902 Durham, Maude Louise 1908 Yorkshire and Thomas Edgar 1910 Durham.

Where does she fit in?

1861 Census;
Jacob Trudgian, 33
Emma J Trudgian, 14
John Trudgian, 12
Sarah Trudgian, 10
Julia Trudgian, 5
Arthur Trudgian, 3
ANNE Trudgian, 1

ANN Trudgian Baptised 10 April 1860, St Stephen in BRannel
Parents JACOB/LOUISA
Birth 22 June 1859
Fathers Occp Waggoner

02 Aug 1857 they Baptised ARTHUR/SARAH/JULIA/JOHN/EMMA JANE at the same time

Marriage of Jacob/Louisa is on Cornwall OPC 1846 also;
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/

Trish (in Sydney)

[bails]

Marriage of Jacob/Louisa is on Cornwall OPC 1846 also;
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/home/

Trish (in Sydney)

Thanks everyone for your help. It certainly clarifies a lot for me. And the Cornwall link you gave me Trish has been keeping me occupied for hours! Wonderful resource!!

Cheers
Bails 

[trish1120]

Hi bails,
If you find Elizabeth Matthews in 1861 she is with Husband George born c 1816 St Keverne and 3 Children from 1871 Census.

1851 Census George/Elizabeth MATHEWS (1 T) have children;
Thomas 1843*
Elizabeth 1845
Henry 1847
John 1849
William 1mth
Cornwall OPC has Thomas's Birth Reg 1842 as Thomas Maurice but FreeBMD has him as Thomas Morrish Mathews Sept 1842


Now a George MATTHEW Married Ann MORRISH 14 Jan 1802 St Keverne (FreeREG)
www.freereg.org.uk


George MATHEW was Baptised 10 Sept 1815 St keverne to GEORGE/ANN
(Familysearch.Org)
Cornwall OPC doesnt have Georges Baptism but does have to George/Ann in St Keverne;
JOHN 1802
GRACE 1804
THOMAS MORRISH 1809
JOSEPH 1819
HENRY 1821
F/S. Org has these also;
MARY 1812
+ possible WILLIAM NICOLS 1807 in Menage, Cornwall

And possibly Ann Mathews nee Morrish remarried to a Mr White and is the Ann with Thomas in 1861 Census?