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« on: Wednesday 03 April 13 02:29 BST (UK) »
Hi
Seeking 1. Passenger list of arrival to USA from Fremantle Australia 1879 of Partick James and Mary Egan and son Patrick "Joseph"Egan.
2. 1950 Census records of Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts please of Mary Jane Egan
Street possible 54 Nonotuck St Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts.
3. Are the Naturalization records available of Australian citizens to USA citizens?

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Re: Egan
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 06:55 BST (UK) »
Quote from: velcro on Wednesday 03 April 13 02:29 BST (UK)
Hi
Seeking 1. Passenger list of arrival to USA from Fremantle Australia 1879 of Partick James and Mary Egan and son Patrick "Joseph"Egan.
2. 1950 Census records of Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts please of Mary Jane Egan
Street possible 54 Nonotuck St Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts.
3. Are the Naturalization records available of Australian citizens to USA citizens?

cheers
Velcro

May I please note that "Australian" citizenship simply did NOT exist until after WWII .... from memory I think it dates from 26 Jan 1949.   Until that time, persons who had been born in any of the six British Colonies that form Australia were British Subjects.    There was also the option for persons who were born outside of the British Empire and who migrated to any of the British Colonies to apply for Naturalisation as a British Subject (NOT as an Australian Citizen, nor as a Citizen of the specific colony, but simply as a British Subject).   

So if the EGAN family were already British Subjects when they migrated to Australia, then they would NOT have needed to apply such status again once they were settled in Australia, nor would they have been required to give up that status when departing from the port of Fremantle, in the colony of Western Australia.

I have no information about the availability or otherwise of Naturalisation records in the USA in the late 19th Century. 

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Re: Egan
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 08:13 BST (UK) »
Dear Jm
Thank so for your reply.
Why I ask about the US naturalization is in the 1940 Massachusetts census of Patrick Joseph Egan has birth place Australia b. 19 Mar 1877 Perth WA.
Residence in 1935 Northampton Hampshire County Massachusetts USA, Citizenship says - Naturalized. Occupation Salesman. Married Mary Jane "Jennie" Egan nee Fahey date and place unknown? Probably in the same county where census taken, first born 19 Jul 1901 Same county being Thomas F Egan.

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Re: Egan
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 09:40 BST (UK) »
The 1940 census is not that long released and is the latest one available for the U.S.
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Re: Egan
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 10:25 BST (UK) »
Dear Aghadowey

Thanks for that snippet.
Looks like Patrick James the father was b. Jan 1839 Ireland and possibly became a US citizen 19 Oct 1880 as he migrated 1879 and didn't waste time becoming a US Citizen.

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Re: Egan
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 10:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: velcro on Wednesday 03 April 13 02:29 BST (UK)
Hi
 
2. 1950 Census records of Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts please of Mary Jane Egan
Street possible 54 Nonotuck St Northampton Hampshire county Massachusetts.

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Mary Egan died 23 December 1904 58 Nonotuck Street, F. Northampton, Hampshire, Massachusetts.
Parents:- Thomas Leahy and Kate Connell Burial :- St Marys Cemetery.

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Husband Patrick Egan died 2 April 1903 58 Nonotuck St. F. Northampton, Massachusetts
Father:- Patrick Egan  Burial :- St Marys Cemetery.

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Re: Egan
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 10:42 BST (UK) »
Quote from: velcro on Wednesday 03 April 13 10:25 BST (UK)
Dear Aghadowey

Thanks for that snippet.
Looks like Patrick James the father was b. Jan 1939 Ireland and possibly became a US citizen 19 Oct 1880 as he migrated 1879 and didn't waste time becoming a US Citizen.

Velcro

Born 1839? Are you sure about 1880 date?
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Re: Egan
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 10:44 BST (UK) »
FIND A GRAVE

Patrick, Joseph (1877 - 1946)  and Mary Egan (1848-1904)

Burials: Saint Mary Cemetery  Northampton Hampshire County Massachusetts.

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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=90053139&PIpi=59911338

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Re: Egan
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 April 13 11:38 BST (UK) »
Dear Sandra

Thank you for the update. Typo sorry:not 1939 but 1839!
Patrick James Egan b. Jan or May 1839 Ireland ?Tipperary m. Mary French nee Leahy (married before to Edward French in Western Australia) 14 May 1786 Perth WA.  Edward died 8 Jul 1875 Fremantle WA.
Mary Egan/Leahy b. 1848 Ireland ? Tipperary or Cork?
son Patrick "Joseph" Egan b. 19 Mar 1877 Perth Western Australia m. Mary  Jane "Jennie" Fahey b. 1876 Ireland. (also Mary Egan)
So the records son: Patrick "Joseph" Egan 1877 -1946 and wife Mary Egan/Fahey 1876 -1952
parents : Patrick James Egan 1839 -1903 and wife Mary Egan/Leahy 1848-1904.
Takes the Irish! Hope all is clear now.:-)
Trying find which ship they sailed from Fremantle to US. Immigration year 1879.
Velcro
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