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Re: William Sykes & Family
« Reply #36 on: Monday 08 April 13 16:10 BST (UK) »
If the couple didn't wish to wait for 3 weeks for the Banns to be read - for whatever reason - they could apply for a Marriage Licence from the Diocese.  The groom had to appear personally and had to make certain statements - how old he was, his marital status, his occupation, and who he intended to marry.  It usually also states the marriage venue.  The marriage bond, attached to the allegation, meant that the groom and other person(s) pledged to pay a sum of money, I think usually £200 (so a lot), if the marriage was illegal through consanguinity, there was an impediment to the marriage, or the marriage did not take place, then that sum was forfeit.  If the marriage did take place, then the bond was released.  So an interesting couple of pages!
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« Reply #37 on: Monday 08 April 13 16:12 BST (UK) »
Oh right that is interesting. Hopefully they did survived. I've emailed them already. Do we know who Ann's parents were? I'd like to find out who William's parents were. I've always noted them as being Samuel Sykes and Mary Rhodes.

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« Reply #38 on: Monday 08 April 13 16:18 BST (UK) »
You won't get that information from a Marriage Licence unless one of them was a minor and was marrying with the consent of the father.  However, the ages given on the Allegation may help to narrow the field, and occupation may also point in the right direction.
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Re: William Sykes & Family
« Reply #39 on: Monday 08 April 13 16:41 BST (UK) »
Oh Okay, well hopefully they have them!


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Re: William Sykes & Family
« Reply #40 on: Monday 08 April 13 19:09 BST (UK) »
With the help of some members I found Charles on the 1851 Census:

Charles Sykes, 42, b - Yorkshire, Bretton.
Sarah Sykes, 49, b - Yorkshire
Mary Ann Sykes, 12, b - Yorkshire Drilington
Charles Sykes, 16, b - Yorkshire Drilington
Sarah J. Sykes, 12, b - Cheshire, Wembury.
Eleanor Sykes, 5, b - Cheshire, Wembury.
Thomas Sykes, 22, Gamekeeper, b - Cheshire, Wembury.

Charles is a gamekeeper. I can't make out what relation Thomas Sykes is to Charles - I can't make out the word, looks like son but I don't think it is.

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« Reply #41 on: Monday 08 April 13 19:22 BST (UK) »
The entry for Thomas is "Serv(ant)" - 22 - gamekeeper - born Wrenbury, Cheshire

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« Reply #42 on: Monday 08 April 13 19:26 BST (UK) »
I thought it may of been servant at first glance, but why does he have the surname Sykes?

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« Reply #43 on: Monday 08 April 13 19:30 BST (UK) »
Because that's his name  :o  Family relationships weren't always shown as we would know them!
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« Reply #44 on: Monday 08 April 13 19:31 BST (UK) »
Right okay! haha. Can't find Charles in 1861.