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St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« on: Tuesday 09 April 13 17:48 BST (UK) »
If anyone has access to the baptisms register for St Paul's Hemel Hempstead, I'd be grateful if you could check an entry (found on the IGI) for the baptism of Ada Ruth Field(s) on 26 October 1888. I know her parents' were William and Rebecca Fields but if the register contains any other information I'd be grateful. In particular, is William listed as being alive at the time of the baptism?

If he was alive at the baptism, then I am wondering whether William could have died and been buried there. In which case the date would have to be between the date of the baptism and 5 April 1891.

Any help gratefully received.

Alison

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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 April 13 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Alison

Only other details in baptism register...William is a farm labourer & abode is Tring

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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 15:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the reply Sarah.

He and Rebecca did marry in Tring in 1883 so I wonder why their daughter was baptised in Hemel Hempstead? She was apparently born in Little Otterspool, near Bushey, Hertfordshire on 11 September 1888.

It's a very odd case because Rebecca and Ada turn up in the 1891 census living with a man called Alfred Samuel Turner and describing themselves as Alfred's wife and daughter.

She then goes on to marry Alfred on 16 July 1892 and on the marriage certificate is described as a widow.

I am really interested in William Field(s) who also named himself John on occasions. Despite my best efforts, I cannot find his death anywhere on ancestry. It is a real mystery. He was born in Totternhoe Bedfordshire in July 1859.

That was why I was wondering if he appeared in the burial records for Hemel Hempstead as he must have died between the baptism and the 1891 census.

A real brick I cannot bust for the life of me.

Alison

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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 15:38 BST (UK) »
Oh I forgot to say in the 1891 census Rebecca, Alfred and Ada are living in Hereford!


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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 17:27 BST (UK) »
Hi

........ and Hereford was where they married ....................

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 April 13 18:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

.... and is this Ada marrying? If so, what does it say about her father on the certificate?

Jun 1905 Ross 6a 1048A
Ada R Fields / John Smallman

We are not allowed to carry out 1911 searches for you, but, if you search for
IDA Ruth Smallman b1887 Watford living Ross
then you may get lucky for the above couple.

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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 April 13 09:57 BST (UK) »
Yes I have found Ada's marriage already and also I found her with Rebecca and Alfred in the 1911 census in Ross. When she married, Alfred was described as a father. Apparently, she did not discover until many years later when she needed a passport and obtained her birth certificate that William Field was her father not Alfred.

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Re: St Paul's Hemel Hempstead - FIELD(S)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 April 13 15:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

When she married, Alfred was described as a father.

So, at her marriage Alfred Turner was identified as her father?
Yet, she married in the name of Fields? Not Turner.

How many people would NOT ask "why am I marrying in the name of Fields, when my father is Turner?"

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