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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 April 13 19:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Margp

Yes I have come to learn that its a very common name and sometimes is known as Orton too.

My gut feeling says that he came from Staffordshire having looked at loads of Horton/Orton families.

I haven't actually seen the Parish Register entry as it was kindly provided to me from a fellow RC from a CD they had and they did not mention a parish, just the witness names of William Horton and Eliza Smith and that the bride and groom signed with a X.

Further down the line in my tree there is another Orton from Birmingham who is stated as "nephew" to the Head of household.  The wife's maiden name was Horton, Maria Horton, John Horton's daughter.

I would be really interested to see the original PR but Birmingham Archives are closed.  I am also not well enough to travel upto Birmingham at the moment.  I wondered whether the copy on the LDS microfilm would shed any further light?

Thanks in anticipation ...

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 April 13 20:11 BST (UK) »
You can check the marriage record out, at your local LDS Centre
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 April 13 20:30 BST (UK) »
Have just tried to order it but been advised online that the film is not avaiable. :(

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 13 April 13 20:42 BST (UK) »
Have just tried to order it but been advised online that the film is not avaiable. :(
I would ring them
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich


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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 April 13 20:56 BST (UK) »
The only Baptism Record I can find for a John Horton is the following, but this in the county of Warwick

John Horton or Orton
b 29 Jan 1809 Southam Warwickshire
Father John, occupation Hatter
Mother Ann

Source FindMyPast
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 13 April 13 21:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks I will ring them when they are next open.

I dont think that the FindMyPast entry is relevant as he was not born in county in the 1841 census.  There are a few possibilities on Familysearch which I will look into but I need to find a brother William to a John born abt 1811 +/- 5 years ...

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 13 April 13 21:51 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth is born out of the county on the census, but she was baptized in Edgbaston
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 13 April 13 22:00 BST (UK) »
Yes Ive just checked my tree, census and LDS baptism record and yes she was baptised Oct 1812 Edgbaston.

Perhaps I should look for William Hortons in Warwickshire too.

Oh Goodness this is all so confusing so Im glad of any help please!

Will PM the RC who gave me the marriage details just to check if the parishes were noted.


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Re: How to find a birth with little info - huge brickwall
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 13 April 13 22:12 BST (UK) »
William, may not have been a brother, he may have been a cousin, uncle or even a father
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich